The FAQ is nice, but there are also folks out there that have written some additional handy resources, such as:
- https://www.k58.uk/openbsd.html (on installing and getting XFCE and Firefox working, including changes to staff group to increase allowed resource limits, etc) - https://www.openbsdhandbook.com/ (howtos on many things) -- including https://www.openbsdhandbook.com/services/webserver/ssl/ (how to setup httpd with acme-client with multiple domains) Note that after you install packages via pkg_add, there may be a note displayed telling you to read a file. Within that file is important information you should know. They're usually in the /usr/local/share/doc/pkg-readmes directory and you should read them. For Firefox in particular it will tell you things you may want to do to get the behavior you're used to. See: https://github.com/openbsd/ports/blob/master/www/mozilla-firefox/pkg/README And for XFCE: https://github.com/openbsd/ports/blob/master/meta/xfce/pkg/README-main ------- Original Message ------- On Sunday, September 24th, 2023 at 11:34 PM, Jean-François Simon <jfsimon1...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi Eric, > > You'll find how to install OpenBSD following FAQ pretty easily. > > After install, you'll be able to add packages (install software) with a > simple internet connection. > > You'd have to install for example XFCE, Thunderbird, Firefox, Chromium. > > OpenBSD base install does includes a set of GUI and packages, but not a > full fledged OS, but that's easy to do and above recommended packages > should do well. > > Forget about searches, at this point you can easily start install base > OS, packages, if needed get help on mail list or IRC, first go to the > man and FAQ on website, they provide a path to get you up and running no > difficulty. > > Regards > > Jean-François > > > On 9/12/23 08:21, Eric Demer wrote: > > > > > (I am considering getting a laptop with openBSD, but have > > > > not yet done so, which is why I can't easily check on my own.) > > > > > > > > Does openBSD come with a web browser? > > > > The "the FAQ and" parts of https://www.openbsd.org/mail.html > > > > suggest that it does, but I haven't found any more > > > > detail regarding this at https://www.openbsd.org/ . > > > > Quite frankly, if you're incapable of using one, I'd steer clear. > > > > The answer to this is the result of a very basic web search. > > > > Cheers! > > > > Perhaps I should steer clear anyway, but what's probably > > the reason I didn't find that answer may change things. > > > > Specifically, do you find that information with a basic web search > > while using none of Stackexchange , Reddit , Youtube , Google ? > > > > For the reasons explained in the following paragraphs, I am > > not willing to use those four sites. I still got into results saying > > that one can easily install Firefox on openBSD, and remember at > > least one result saying that some people use Lynx on it, but those > > didn't address whether there's one that comes already installed. > > > > I did go into results saying that one can easily install > > Firefox on openBSD, and remember at least one result saying > > that some people use Lynx on it, but those didn't > > address whether there's one that comes already installed. > > The other search results (from using duckduckgo) I found > > that mentioned openBSD - as opposed to just freeBSD - > > were all from stackexchange and reddit and youtube. > > > > I left Stackexchange when it adopted Terms according to which, > > them changing those terms other than the arbitration clause > > as I am scrolling a page on their site would result in > > me being bound by whatever they changed the Terms to. > > Since the trigger for those Terms was something like, > > using their Network in any way, I have never intentionally > > gone back there, and have left immediately when I've > > accidentally when I've accidentally gone back there. > > (In particular, if they no longer have > > such Terms then I don't know that.) > > > > My brief search for Reddit's Terms brought up Reddit > > result previews suggesting that Reddit's Terms are also > > such that according to them, using their site to view > > their terms would constitute acceptance of those terms. > > Furthermore, according to > > https://github.com/OpenTermsArchive/contrib-versions > > /blob/main/Reddit/Terms%20of%20Service.md > > , the changes provision in Reddit's Terms manages > > to be even worse than that of Stackexchange's Terms: > > Its change-acceptance is from access to or use of "the Services on or > > after the Effective Date of the revised Terms", and it does not say > > the Effective Date can't be before the revised Terms were posted. > > > > Youtube's Terms are better, but (0) it's Google, and > > (1) the "launch a new product or feature" exception is > > merely a timing restriction: It's not limited to changes > > that have anything else to do with the new product or feature. > > Google's Terms seem to have the same changes provision. > > > > Eric Demer
