Inference really doesn't need that much power. I live on solar and run
decently large models on my own equipment.

--Stephen

On Thu, Oct 30, 2025 at 08:27:10AM +0100, Jonas Bechtel wrote:
> 
> 
> On Thu, 30 Oct 2025 12:08:54 +1000
> David <[email protected]> wrote
> 
> > 
> > It's just a tool, like a hammer.
> > 
> >[...]
> > 
> > It's not the tool, it's the personality who picks it up who determines 
> > usage.
> > 
> 
> It's not that easy. Two points here:
> 
> 1. This "AI" has lots of implications, on society, on balance of power, etc.. 
> Yes, this may have been valid for any technologic revolution (Printing, 
> Steel, ...), but it also means that personality just has limited influence, 
> so your sentence is wrong.
> 
> Much more aspects can be found in this paper of misc hypothesis (only in 
> German unfortunately):
> https://www.kimege.de/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/KIMeGe_Thesenpapier.pdf
> 
> 2. Easyly forgotten, even in the KIMeGe_Thesenpapier.pdf: "AI" techniques 
> like LLM or image generation consume lots of energy and hardware. It is 
> questionable whether these applications will be sustainable. I believe that 
> most "AI" applications will cease because of unstable electronic supply 
> chains and fights for energy.
> 
> 

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