On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 11:09:17PM +0100, Patrick Useldinger wrote:
> Guys,
> 
> this is all turning to complete bullshit, and it's not only my fault.
> If anyone actually cared reading my post, my question was simple:
> 
> ==> where is the disklabel stored, and what is its size? <==

Being that I'm a ccd newbie, not an OpenBSD developer, etc., take the
following with a grain of salt...

In ccd(4)...

     Note that the `raw' partitions of the disks should not be combined. Each
     component partition should be offset at least one cylinder from the be-
     ginning of the component disk.  This avoids potential conflicts between
     the component disk's disklabel(8) and the concatenated disk's disklabel.

which, along with other things, leads me to believe that the underlying
"real" partitions are combined and then accessed through a
pseudo-device. Seems from there that disklabel would operate as normal,
but on the pseudo-device. Unless there's some odd reason why that can't
be done, it makes the most sense. If so, then the disklabel is just like
any other disklabel, except that it'll be striped across "real"
partitions, etc.

People who actually know what they're talking about can tell us how
off base I am.

> The question was generic, and I wanted a generic answer. Not the answer 
> to the question "where is MY disklabel stored in MY specific case". Now 
> asking for a dmesg, fdisk or disklabel output makes no sense. Nor do the 
> answers from your RTFM-bots. What's next - my social security number?

Yes, that can be frustrating. It happens in mailing lists all over, and
in real life, too. It used to happen to me *much* more often, but I've
learned over the years to be careful how I ask things. Not that there
was anything exceptionally wrong with how you asked, but it did NOT get
the results you wanted. So...

> You expect me to read through all the documentation and the mailing list 
> archives before posting. I did. Now I expect you to read my post before 
> giving me unhelpful, rude and standard answers. Makes sense, no?
> 
> Do you think you are helping OpenBSD in any way? Do you think that this 
> kind of behaviour is going to make me respond another time when Theo 
> asks for funding? Of course not. Go empty your own purse.
> 
> Being arrogant is probably bearable if you are really really skilled. 
> But if you are unable to read a post properly, then you should by all 
> means stay humble. Think about it.
> 
> I am used to the Slackware Linux community which is both skilled and 
> helpful. Boy what a difference that makes. I do this for fun and I am 
> not willing to take your bullshit just because you feel like it.
> 
> I am sorry for this project, and I am sorry for Theo. I do respect him 
> and the work he coordinates. But the moron index on this mailing list is 
> just too high for me.
> 
> So sad for a good idea.

Sounds like you've donated money in the past, and that you've read this
list before. So you know the terrain. Funny, I've gotten a lot of help
here, and it's been damned good help. There's a lot of crap and
nastiness on this list, but somehow I stay out of it without too much
thought or effort. I've hardly ever drawn much heat on here, except for
a couple of deserved "corrections" from Theo. How do I manage that? I
don't care, because I'm not having a problem. You might want to think
about it, though.

As for donations, *I* donate because I get more back from this project
than any other I've ever dealth with, not because people are nice to me.
I like the code, and the direction the code has gone and is headed.
That's exactly what I'm donating for. If you want to stop donating
because people were mean to you - that's fine. The code will still be
here if you want to use it. You can always use OpenBSD and hang out with
the slack guys.

-- 
Darrin Chandler                   |  Phoenix BSD Users Group
[EMAIL PROTECTED]          |  http://bsd.phoenix.az.us/
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