On 9/13/07, Jason Dixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't. The OpenBSD installer is a very underrated part of the > overall user experience. What other OS can you install in 3 minutes > flat? Keep it simple, stupid.
Oh noes, you don't understand. See, I have a shaggy dog tale that demonstrates why people want the nice ncurses installer. And if you give them a ncurses installer, now, they'll want an X based installer. And if you... Anyway, I used to work for a company uses novell, and we were a contractor to a much bigger company for somethings. We wrote a "fax replacement", so instead of faxing 20,000 pages a night, we scanned and dropped it in a directory, and the mothership picked it up, and used it. But they wanted to print as well (to their new printers), and it would not print, obviously my application problem. I told my boss they just needed their novell guy to set up the rights on the new printers, but, my boss told me to go on down, for "customer service". *sigh* So, I told them I need one of the users to be there, and someone with admin rights. I went. Brought up printcon, and other various things, peeked and poked[1] around. Satisfied to myself that it was a rights issue, pointed out to the "novell administrator" hanging around. Brought up a dos box, and was doing things like pings and telnets, and the "novell administrator" went "yucks, you're one of those <nasal drawl>DOS people". And this was mid/late 90s, win95/nt4 days. Ignored him. As I left, I overheard him complaining to a friend that he's been there x months, and they have not given him any rights, and he doesn't understand why, he is supergood+2, and knows everything, and so on and so forth. Then he admitted he didn't know dos very well, and in fact, took the dos class 3 times, and failed it 3 times. And this, people, is why you need to have ncurses based installer. Or not. [1] Man, I used to be able to do some of that, and even knew what the values were. -- "This officer's men seem to follow him merely out of idle curiosity." -- Sandhurst officer cadet evaluation.

