On 10/31/07, n0g0013 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> why must we railroad ourselves to a decision before the discussion
> has even happened?  it would appear that most do not want the discussion
> to happen even though they are neither obligated to participate or
> action the ideas within it.  that is strange to me but as i've said,
> i'm new.

the discussion has already happened.  many times. you missed it.

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