So I can't call a spade a spade?

Sorry buddy I don't do politics well.  If something sucks it is
perfectly ok to call that out.

I haven't even begun being harsh towards java and/or flash.

On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 08:42:01PM +0000, n0g0013 wrote:
> On 17.07-13:21, Marco Peereboom wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 06:07:05PM +0000, n0g0013 wrote:
> > > On 17.07-10:13, Marco Peereboom wrote:
> > > [ ... ]
> > > > I am saying that each java app requires its own java runtime because the
> > > > previous/next version is incompatible.  Nothing new here.
> > > 
> > > this is wrong.  java versions are largely compatible and most requirements
> > > are library problems, not runtime compatibility (although i believe
> > > distribution rights to core components would often restrict packaging
> > > for forward compatibility).
> > 
> > I love your optimism.  Integration efforts I worked on for a large
> > company always required to drop 1 run time environment per app.  I
> > promise we tried really really hard to make that one.  This meant that
> > when a loaded box went out the door there were as many as 8 java
> > runtimes installed on your box.
> > 
> > Spare me the "but my app is totally 1337 and doesn't need that"; it
> > simply doesn't apply to many scenarios.
> 
> you are the first person in a long time to accuse me of optimism, i
> suppose i should thank you for that, but the statement was made from
> experience.  whatever your personal experiences i still maintain that
> your orginal statement was wrong, or at the very least, an extremely
> harsh assessment.
> 
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