On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 08:25:40AM -0300, Jose Fragoso wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Thanks for the tip on using submission, SSL or TLS
> ports. That solves many of my problems.
> 
> But I still think that dynmically allocated IPs should be
> treated somehow differently by SPAMD greylisting process.
> 
> My point is that if a remote SMTP server goes through the
> greylisting process and ends up getting its IP address
> whitelisted, that should not be inherited by the next
> owner of that IP address.
> 
> I know it may be difficult (if not impossible) to identify
> whether an IP address is part of an address poll of some
> DSL or cable provider (maybe there is a list kept somewhere
> in the world of such ranges).
> 
> I know for sure one these ranges here in Brazil. And I see
> a hell of a lot of spam passing through SPAMD, just because
> some of these IP addresses got whitelisted by an earlier
> well-behaved temporary owner.
> 
> So I would like to know if someone has come up with an
> interesting idea on dealing this issue.

This, alas, I'd say violates the basic assumptions
for greytrapping. A bit. Most of the times at least
here in Sweden, you get the same IP address every
time. It is only when the ISP has to it gives you a new.

And shortening the invalidation time for greytrapped
addresses would essentially force the SMTP clients
to pass greytrapping every time.

My ISP does not allow outgoing SMTP from clients so I have to
use their mail hub. That is also a solution, especially
when combined with SPF (Server Policy Framework),
provided MTAs use it. But it is not a solution
at your end, it is a would be global solution.

Maybe pf OS fingerprinting can pinpoint XP and Vista
machines and tarpit mail from them. Or are there
serious SMTP clients on those platforms?

> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Jose
> 
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