On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 12:12:08PM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: > > To beat a dead horse a little deader and make one final attempt to > > help, I'll add a few remarks about a diff I committed last night. The > > diff had previously been posted to tech. > > > > On the learning front, the first question to ask might be "Why does > > removing proc.h from uvm_map.h cause an error in sysctl.h when > > compiling if_iwn.c?" This immediately gets you four more questions, > > what are proc.h, uvm_map.h, sysctl.h, and if_iwn.c? > > > > On the contributing front, I said in my first mail the diff was > > incomplete and asked for help, but nobody did. All you had to do to > > find a bug was apply the patch and type make on an exotic > > architecture. And by exotic architecture, I mean i386 GENERIC. Or > > amd64. Actually, any and every kernel config other than i386 MP. So > > when people can't/don't/won't type make, it doesn't inspire much > > confidence that they will be able to modify the code and then type > > make. > > > > Followup questions for the advanced contributor: Why did vfs_biomem.c > > fail to compile except with an MP kernel? What was the obvious fix > > for SP? What then broke when Theo tried it? Why did we commit the > > gross workaround? What's the right solution? > > > > In the last month, I mailed 8 patches to tech. They were in areas as > > various the kernel to userland to documentation. All of them featured > > fairly obvious followups for someone to build upon. Not a single one > > earned a response from anyone who's not already a committer. > > I concur. In summary, everyone offering help is lying; fact is they > are unwilling to get off the couch.
I appreciate the sentiment, but this isn't true. How many new developers have been added over the past few of years? How many patches have been taken from non-comitters? Never enough, but plenty to clearly show how it works. -- Darrin Chandler | Phoenix BSD User Group | MetaBUG dwchand...@stilyagin.com | http://phxbug.org/ | http://metabug.org/ http://www.stilyagin.com/ | Daemons in the Desert | Global BUG Federation
