STeve Andre' [[email protected]] wrote: > I think that is a fundamentally flawed assumption. Root can do > *ANYTHING*. Anything at all. Sure, preventing crashes is good, > but you can't get around the fact that root is omniscient. >
Had this 'root' been *omniscient*, the incident wouldn't have happened. You probably meant to say that root is, in fact *omnipotent* ! p > On Sunday 25 July 2010 19:16:05 bofh wrote: > > Ok, when I first learnt how to use unix nearly 20 years ago, one of > > the things I learnt was that a privileged user can break shit, but > > should not cause kernels to hang or crash. That would be considered a > > bug. Only DOS and windows 3.1 do that :) > > > > On 7/25/10, STeve Andre' <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Sunday 25 July 2010 18:40:19 frantisek holop wrote: > > >> hmm, on Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 12:12:32AM +0200, David Vasek said that > > >> > > >> > It is not what happened. The -t msdos was forced by you. But you > > >> > > >> ah shit. you are right :] > > >> > > >> and it worked because ffs does not overwrite the beginning > > >> of the partition. > > >> > > >> i misinterpreted what happened, > > >> but this is still a problem, right? :] > > >> > > >> -f > > > > > > It's a "problem" in that something bad happened, but that is because > > > of an operator error. In particular a root operator error: being root > > > has the potential for unlimited error. There is no fix or check for > > > "rm -rf /", is there. > > > > > > I've not looked at the code so I can't intelligently comment on what > > > checks you can or cannot do, but the fundamental issue is that root > > > has to be aware of every command entered, and must be prepared > > > to fix *anything*. An OS cannot prevent you from most problems. > > > Well, Windows tries, but look at what it feel like to use it... > > > -- > STeve Andre' > Disease Control Warden > Dept. of Political Science > Michigan State University > > A day without Windows is like a day without a nuclear incident. > -- I'm a VIP at my local liquor store and I'm root. Fear me ! -- PGP-Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x78AE48D9 PGP-Fingerprint: B4B5 2521 73BF 4BA3 13D2 80ED CF26 BE66 78AE 48D9

