On Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 03:48:16PM +0200, Christian wrote:
> Kristijan Vrban wrote:
> >>It really depends. When calling a GSM or ISDN phone, I wouldn't need an
> >>EC, calling some analog phones, especially wireless analog phones and I
> >>have sometimes really heavy echo.
> >
> >I confirm. With mISDN you get echo only(but allways) when calling 
> >analog phones.
> >You never get echo by calling GSM and ISDN.
> >
> >By the way, how does all the other classic ISDN-PBX??s handle this 
> >analog echo thing.
> >Does the all have also built in EC??s? Then even also every single 
> >ISDN-Phone needs an EC,
> >when the phone is directly conneted via PtM?
> >
> old Equipment gets the Echo too, but the delay is so small, that you 
> won't recognize it. With SIP Phones you have at least 20 ms delay only 
> because of the standard RTP Paket Size.
> 
> Delay above 20ms is hearable by humans.

I can confirm the observations above (echo when calling an analog phone
or an ISDN-Line with a connected analog phone), never from GSM.

But I'm *also* getting echo for calls when using a locally connected
analog phone (connected via a TDM400 not via a SIP ATA) instead of a SIP
phone, but I'm using call-by-call providers, maybe these are introducing
an additional delay above 20ms.

Ralf
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