You just can't up and decide to change the parliamentarian procedure of the
HoR, so I would guess what was done is in the rules somewhere and the other
side never took advantage of the rules when they where in control, or they
did and the talking heads made light of the shrill yelling democrats instead
of researching the issue complete.

On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Janice <janice4just...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> That island is looking better and better.....
>
> Sent from my iPhoneJanice Lee Parker
>
> On Jul 29, 2009, at 8:31 AM, "Fred B. Ellison" <fbelli...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>    Absolutely disgusting... Where is the media???
>
>
>
> *If you still don't think that this is a rogue presidency backed by a
> rogue Speaker, then this report will convince you that they are utterly
> lawless.*
>
>
>
> Censored on House Floor by Pelosi - HUMAN 
> EVENTS<http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=32718>
>
>
>
> http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=32718
>
>
>
>
>
> *Pelosi Censors Republicans*
>
> *by Rep. John Carter **
> **07/16/2009*
>
>
>
> Monday night Democrats voted to shut down the U.S. House Representatives
> rather than allow a handful of Republican Congressmen to speak on the floor.
> What could have been so offensive or frightening about our discourse that
> Speaker Pelosi felt she had to protect her party by gagging free speech in
> the House?
>
> In fact, we had planned to speak on the lack of transparency of the House
> since Democrats took control. We had planned to criticize Speaker Pelosi for
> repeatedly denying Members, the media, and the public to right to read
> legislation before it was voted on. We were set to discuss House Majority
> Leader Steny Hoyer's statement last week that if his Members were required
> to read the Democrats' healthcare reform package before it was voted on, it
> would fail.
>
> So the Speaker obviously feels that if the public is truly aware of her
> party's agenda, they will reject it. She is now making sure the public is
> kept in the dark by trampling the centuries-old democratic traditions of the
> House.
>
>
> What are those traditions? Every day that the House is in session,
> following the final vote of the day, representatives are allowed the
> privilege of free speech on the House floor in what is known as "Special
> Orders." They may speak for one minute, five minutes, or one hour segments,
> and must request their time in advance. Time is allocated equally to both
> parties on a first-come basis.
>
> Since the advent of live C-SPAN coverage of the House, this has provided a
> national televised outlet for both Republicans and Democrats to speak to the
> nation on topics they feel were not adequately addressed during regular
> order in the House, during which the Democrat majority has the parliamentary
> ability to limit debate and speeches.
>
> Special Orders therefore frequently serves as a political safety valve if
> the party in the majority becomes too dictatorial during debate, using their
> majority status to truly oppress the minority's ability to debate and offer
> amendments.
>
> That is now the case in the House, with the Democrat majority under Pelosi
> repeatedly rejecting House rules to ram a far-left agenda through before the
> public has time to learn what is actually in the bills.
>
> This is what we were committed to bring to public light.
>
> House rules require a bill be publicly posted for three days before it can
> be voted on. That basic rule was written by none other than Thomas Jefferson
> as part of the original rules package of the House, as it is essential to
> the survival of representative democracy.
>
> The House can waive that rule if it chooses on specific occasions. The
> Republican-controlled House chose to waive it when considering the Patriot
> Act in 2001 following the terror attacks of 9-11. They thought there was
> enough of a national defense emergency to just bring the bill to the floor
> for a vote.
>
> But Nancy Pelosi and her House Democrats have chosen to ignore the rule on
> every major issue taken up by the House this year, including:
>
> *The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act - The Obama Stimulus*: This
> one just had to pass that very day because time was a-wastin' in getting
> those new jobs coming. We couldn't wait for Members to read it. But then the
> President waited four days to sign it into law while he spent the weekend in
> Chicago, and months later none of the new jobs have come into existence.
>
> *The Children's Health Insurance Program Reauthorization (SCHIP)*: Speaker
> Pelosi couldn't wait on this one either, although the deadline for
> reauthorization was still two months away.
>
> *The Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act*: Lilly was peddled as covering
> decades-old wage discrimination cases, but after waiting 20 years, Congress
> couldn't wait one more day to let Members actually read the thing.
> *
> The **Omnibus** **Public** **Land** Management Act of 2009*: No excuses at
> all on this one. They just didn't want the details known.
> *
> The Omnibus Appropriations Act of 2009*: This one has been languishing
> since last October, but we suddenly had to pass it that day.
>
> *The AIG Bonus Tax Act*: This had to get through right then, don't mind
> the details, we just had to go after those bonuses. Only when we read what
> passed after the fact, the bill contained waivers for all of the same
> executives the bill was supposed to reign in, many with curiously close ties
> to Treasury Secretary and tax cheat Tim Geithner.
>
> *The Supplemental Appropriations Act of 2009*: No rush whatever on this
> one time-wise, the Democrats just didn't want people talking about the
> hundreds of billions given to foreign banks that should have gone to our
> troops.
>
> *The American Clean Energy and Security Act/National Cap-and-Trade Energy
> Tax*:
> No excuse was offered on this one, the Speaker just didn't want anybody
> reading Henry Waxman's 300 page amendment he sneaked in overnight before we
> were forced to vote. Three weeks later, the Senate shows no intention of
> taking up the bill before the opening day of dove season, if then.
>
> There's a reason all these bills are listed. The list constitutes every
> major policy bill undertaken by Congress this year. House Democrats are not
> just waiving the three-day rule -- they have destroyed it, and are
> intentionally pushing their agenda to the floor with blindfolds on the media
> and the public.
>
> This constitutes an astonishing and chilling acceleration of the assault on
> representative democracy that began in earnest this January.
>
> Representative democracy works when a U.S. Representative listens to the
> input of their constituents, and votes the way the majority of their
> district would vote. Only a Representative can't listen if no one has ever
> seen the bill, or had time to provide input. They have to vote blind, which
> for too many, is voting the way their leadership tells them.
>
> This is what Republican House Members were going to the floor to say Monday
> night. We were set to decry the loss of openness in the House.
>
> Instead, we were met with a slammed door by Democrats, who are now
> committed to burying truth along with democracy.
>
> The Democrats are the majority -- for now. They chose to silence debate on
> the floor by gagging House Republican Members from using their historical
> right to speak after the close of the day. But they cannot stop us from
> speaking outside the halls of Congress and letting the American public know
> the truth about their ongoing attack against the very foundations of a free
> Republic.
>
> * *
> *
> ------------------------------
> *
>
> *Mr. Carter, a Republican, represents the 31st District of Texas in the **
> U.S.** House of Representatives.** *
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *Comment: They did the same thing with the Universal Health Care Bill this
> month. Rammed it thru the Senate in a rush and it having major
> implications to every American for years to come.  State Senators
> complaining all along about the lack of sufficient time to even read it and
> an incomplete cost analysis (COG) of what it will cost Americans. The Bill
> is over 4 inches in height on 8 x 11 paper, with counter proposed amendments
> that stack up to over 10 inches in height on 8 x 11 paper and it went to
> Congress sometime after the Democrats ratified it on July 17th . So just
> watch how long it is before it gets rubber stamped into law by Congress.
> *
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