I don't have too much experience with git. But my experience with bzr was all negative. The learning curve was very steep. I always got the feeling that you needed to understand a great deal of the internal workings in order to understand what command you should run.
When we swtiched it was my first experience with DVCS. I understood the whole DVCS aspect of it but things like there multiple unintuitive commands (pull, branch and clone spring to mind, which do you want from the name?). Then I need to know whether to commit or push, which requires me to remember what I did last time. Part of this is because I never used it heavily but this is probably a pretty good snapshot of the experience many new developers would face. On 17 December 2012 16:29, Daniel Schürmann <dasch...@mixxx.org> wrote: > Hi RJ, Hi All > > "bzr vs. git" if you ask Google you find a lot of pros and cons for both. > > I personal like the IMO easy "commit / update" scheme from SVN. Every time I > use git it is hard for me to understand what will happen. > But I am willing to learn. :-) > > I think you listed pros and cons are valid for us. > And I am sure git is much better than bzr, but its harder to use for new > user. > > Launchpad makes a good job in clarity and has an outstanding bug management. > It should be well thought if we move away and give up this one stop > provider. > > I have recently worked with cinnamon on GitHub. It is very hard to get an > overview of the project > You can compare for instance: > https://github.com/linuxmint/Cinnamon > http://code.google.com/p/clementine-player/ > > Do you have experiences with tools like bzr-git and git-bzr? > > One minor issue with is the non consecutive version number of git. I there > an easy way to generate a revision counter with git? > > I have not exactly get your point why code review with GitHub is that much > faster.? > > I support the Idea to set up a git mirror. This is in any case good idea to > test how it will feel and a good first step. > But for now I would prefer to have our trunk (master branch) at Launchpad. > > Kind regards, > > Daniel > > PS: Sorry for the empty mail. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2012/12/16 Neale Pickett <ne...@woozle.org> >> >> +1 I'm a fan of git; bzr confuses me. >> >> Consider gitorious instead of GitHub, though. Gitorious releases 100% >> of the source code used to run the site, and is very FOSS oriented, >> while GitHub uses proprietary software and is interested in you paying >> money for project hosting. >> >> >> On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 19:46:34 -0500 >> RJ Ryan <rr...@mixxx.org> wrote: >> >> > Here's a thought. What if we moved our repos to git and hosted on >> > GitHub? We would use Launchpad for project management (bugs, specs, >> > milestones, etc) and GitHub for code and code review. >> > >> > PRO: >> > >> > - GitHub's web-based code review tool is getting better by the day. >> > - git has 'won' the battle of the DVCS's. >> > - git is lightning fast in contrast to bazaar >> > - GitHub has a very slick web interface for browsing code >> > - Contributors submit pull requests instead of patches. This way >> > they get their names in the commit log as the committer. This makes >> > attribution and copyright ownership easier to track. >> > - lightweight branches >> > - Launchpad supports pulling code / branch info from an external >> > git tree so code.launchpad.net/mixxx won't be totally useless. >> > >> > >> > CON: >> > >> > - Git is harder to use than Bazaar. Developers not familiar will >> > have to learn. >> > - Work involved in migrating scripts, build server, build system, >> > etc. >> > - Issue tracker is fledgling. We should only use GitHub for code >> > and code review, not for issues or wiki. >> > - lightweight branches -- need to hack scons to do per-branch >> > object file folders or else you will be re-building the world all >> > over the place. >> > - No link from GitHub commits to LP bugs other than in commit >> > description. IMO not a big deal. >> > >> > Thoughts? >> > >> > In general these are the points that I think really matter: >> > >> > * Code review : I spend a lot of time reviewing code and patch >> > submissions. I would switch to GitHub for this alone. If it made me >> > spend half as much time reviewing code as I do now that would be a >> > huge savings and would free time for me to do other things. >> > >> > * Speed. I'm so fed up with Bazaar's slowness and I'm sure you are >> > too. >> > >> > * Developer mindshare is in Git, we are potentially missing out on >> > contributions due to our tools (scons, bzr) being unfamiliar. >> > >> > * The tooling in the git community is way better than Bazaar. >> > >> > Another option is to setup a mirror of bzr on GitHub. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial >> Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support >> Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services >> Discover what IT Professionals Know. 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