Cool, point-and-click native app for Github! But not for Linux :-(
Which one would you recommend for Linux?

How compatible are git and bzr in terms of loosing history.
We have currently 97 branches listed in Launchpad. Will it be possible
to merge theme with a git master some commits ahead?
Or it is possible to move at least some of them without loosing history
and references to each other? 

How we manage not to loose the references to the bugs. Is it possible to
preserve the bzr revision number as commit message or something?

How do we stop users to fill bugs at the git provider. It would bad if
we end up in managing two bug lists.
 
 

Am 17.12.2012 18:52, schrieb nathan dotz:
> Remember too, that Github has a point-and-click native app for mac and 
> windows, if anyone is worried about a learning curve on git :P  
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> On Monday, December 17, 2012 at 12:46 PM, Adam Davison wrote:
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>> I don't have too much experience with git. But my experience with bzr
>> was all negative. The learning curve was very steep. I always got the
>> feeling that you needed to understand a great deal of the internal
>> workings in order to understand what command you should run.
>>  
>> When we swtiched it was my first experience with DVCS. I understood
>> the whole DVCS aspect of it but things like there multiple unintuitive
>> commands (pull, branch and clone spring to mind, which do you want
>> from the name?). Then I need to know whether to commit or push, which
>> requires me to remember what I did last time.
>>  
>> Part of this is because I never used it heavily but this is probably a
>> pretty good snapshot of the experience many new developers would face.
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>> On 17 December 2012 16:29, Daniel Schürmann <dasch...@mixxx.org 
>> (mailto:dasch...@mixxx.org)> wrote:
>>> Hi RJ, Hi All
>>>  
>>> "bzr vs. git" if you ask Google you find a lot of pros and cons for both.
>>>  
>>> I personal like the IMO easy "commit / update" scheme from SVN. Every time I
>>> use git it is hard for me to understand what will happen.
>>> But I am willing to learn. :-)
>>>  
>>> I think you listed pros and cons are valid for us.
>>> And I am sure git is much better than bzr, but its harder to use for new
>>> user.
>>>  
>>> Launchpad makes a good job in clarity and has an outstanding bug management.
>>> It should be well thought if we move away and give up this one stop
>>> provider.
>>>  
>>> I have recently worked with cinnamon on GitHub. It is very hard to get an
>>> overview of the project
>>> You can compare for instance:
>>> https://github.com/linuxmint/Cinnamon
>>> http://code.google.com/p/clementine-player/
>>>  
>>> Do you have experiences with tools like bzr-git and git-bzr?
>>>  
>>> One minor issue with is the non consecutive version number of git. I there
>>> an easy way to generate a revision counter with git?
>>>  
>>> I have not exactly get your point why code review with GitHub is that much
>>> faster.?
>>>  
>>> I support the Idea to set up a git mirror. This is in any case good idea to
>>> test how it will feel and a good first step.
>>> But for now I would prefer to have our trunk (master branch) at Launchpad.
>>>  
>>> Kind regards,
>>>  
>>> Daniel
>>>  
>>> PS: Sorry for the empty mail.
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>>> 2012/12/16 Neale Pickett <ne...@woozle.org (mailto:ne...@woozle.org)>
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>>>> +1 I'm a fan of git; bzr confuses me.
>>>>  
>>>> Consider gitorious instead of GitHub, though. Gitorious releases 100%
>>>> of the source code used to run the site, and is very FOSS oriented,
>>>> while GitHub uses proprietary software and is interested in you paying
>>>> money for project hosting.
>>>>  
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>>>> On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 19:46:34 -0500
>>>> RJ Ryan <rr...@mixxx.org (mailto:rr...@mixxx.org)> wrote:
>>>>  
>>>>> Here's a thought. What if we moved our repos to git and hosted on
>>>>> GitHub? We would use Launchpad for project management (bugs, specs,
>>>>> milestones, etc) and GitHub for code and code review.
>>>>>  
>>>>> PRO:
>>>>>  
>>>>> - GitHub's web-based code review tool is getting better by the day.
>>>>> - git has 'won' the battle of the DVCS's.
>>>>> - git is lightning fast in contrast to bazaar
>>>>> - GitHub has a very slick web interface for browsing code
>>>>> - Contributors submit pull requests instead of patches. This way
>>>>> they get their names in the commit log as the committer. This makes
>>>>> attribution and copyright ownership easier to track.
>>>>> - lightweight branches
>>>>> - Launchpad supports pulling code / branch info from an external
>>>>> git tree so code.launchpad.net/mixxx (http://code.launchpad.net/mixxx) 
>>>>> won't be totally useless.
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>> CON:
>>>>>  
>>>>> - Git is harder to use than Bazaar. Developers not familiar will
>>>>> have to learn.
>>>>> - Work involved in migrating scripts, build server, build system,
>>>>> etc.
>>>>> - Issue tracker is fledgling. We should only use GitHub for code
>>>>> and code review, not for issues or wiki.
>>>>> - lightweight branches -- need to hack scons to do per-branch
>>>>> object file folders or else you will be re-building the world all
>>>>> over the place.
>>>>> - No link from GitHub commits to LP bugs other than in commit
>>>>> description. IMO not a big deal.
>>>>>  
>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>  
>>>>> In general these are the points that I think really matter:
>>>>>  
>>>>> * Code review : I spend a lot of time reviewing code and patch
>>>>> submissions. I would switch to GitHub for this alone. If it made me
>>>>> spend half as much time reviewing code as I do now that would be a
>>>>> huge savings and would free time for me to do other things.
>>>>>  
>>>>> * Speed. I'm so fed up with Bazaar's slowness and I'm sure you are
>>>>> too.
>>>>>  
>>>>> * Developer mindshare is in Git, we are potentially missing out on
>>>>> contributions due to our tools (scons, bzr) being unfamiliar.
>>>>>  
>>>>> * The tooling in the git community is way better than Bazaar.
>>>>>  
>>>>> Another option is to setup a mirror of bzr on GitHub.
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