I 'm not a developer but I am the kind of person who writes mappings for things I own that aren't supported.
what I'd like out of a controller mapping system, is the following : easy to get started: I don't want to learn a new programming language just to get a controller working. well documented : I. want to be able to copy and paste the parts I don't understand from the examples. and read manual when I have to. deep: if if have weird requirements, I want to be able to solve the problem with rtfm. a long time ago I used a program called glovepie that mapps various kinds of controllers. its has a not quite Turing complete scripting language, with a GUI wizard that generates code, which you can then edit by hand. things like inverting/ scaling/ filtering were really easy without having to really know how to program. you guys should check it out. On 12/08/2015, Be <b...@gmx.com> wrote: > None of those are an issue because Mixxx uses an actual programming > language. :) > > On 08/11/2015 11:12 PM, Ferran Pujol Camins wrote: >> I've now well Traktor mapping system. It wouldn't be that bad (provided >> we have scripting anyway) if: >> >> 1-Execution order of sentences could be determined. >> 2-Modifiers could have an arbitrary value (double, text, etc...) instead >> of just 0,..7. >> 3-More than two conditionals could be defined for a sentence. >> 4-The number of modifiers wasn't limited to 8. >> 5-Modifiers could have a name. >> >> 2015-08-11 19:14 GMT+02:00 Be <b...@gmx.com <mailto:b...@gmx.com>>: >> >> I actually played around with Traktor's mapping system last night and >> it >> isn't that great. Complex mappings quickly get messy. We can do >> better. :) >> >> On 08/10/2015 04:29 PM, Be wrote: >> > >> > >> > On 07/07/2015 10:14 AM, raskolni...@es.gnu.org >> <mailto:raskolni...@es.gnu.org> wrote: >> >> >> >> On the OP topic: I think your proposed sintaxes look good and >> could be >> >> useful, it's nice that you open this discussion! >> >> >> >> On the other hand, I have the impression that what we really >> need is a >> >> two simple functions `map[Output,Input]Control(channel, value, >> group, >> >> name, options)` that allows to define a MIDI mapping at >> run-time. This >> >> would be the JS equivalent of the <control> tags. >> >> >> >> On top of this low-level API many richer high-level APIs can be >> >> explored, including your JSON-style formats, Mixco, and >> further. But >> >> most importantly, it would be possible to write advanced >> controllers >> >> with JS mode switching, that are as performant as the pure XML >> scripts. >> >> Right now, a important limitation in the framework is that >> it's all or >> >> nothing, either you bind a MIDI signal statically in the XML, or >> handle >> >> the MIDI events completely in JS -- an interesting approach is to >> be >> >> able to create direct binding for Mixxx controls from JS that >> then >> >> bypass the script for the individual events, providing better >> performance. >> >> >> >> Cheers! >> >> >> >> JP >> >> >> >> >> > >> > I think this is the most reasonable way forward from where Mixxx >> is. >> > This could facilitate a smooth phasing out of the XML format and a >> > transition to JSON. All the info contained in the header of XML >> files >> > could be defined in JSON with a metadata object. >> > >> > Looking into other programs' mapping systems, it looks like >> Traktor and >> > possibly Ableton are the only ones that have mapping systems worth >> > taking ideas from. Serato's system is primitive (at least the >> > user-definable part; no one knows the secrets of how official, >> > unmodifiable Serato certified mappings work). VirtualDJ has its >> own >> > clunky mini-scripting language. Ableton allows scripting with >> Python but >> > at first glace I don't see much documentation for it and I've >> heard >> > there is no debugging output. Traktor's mapping system is >> flexible but >> > tries to do so much in GUI that it ends up being cumbersome. I >> think it >> > would be awesome to implement a GUI interface similar to >> Traktor's but >> > allow direct input of JavaScript snippets from the GUI. For >> example, >> > instead of selecting [Channel1] as the group for a mapping in the >> GUI, a >> > user could type in a JS variable that could be toggled between >> > [Channel1] and [Channel3]. Also, custom JS functions could be >> typed into >> > the GUI. This could combine the best of a GUI interface and the >> > flexibility of JavaScript. >> > >> > I got another idea that I think would be both powerful and >> > straightforward: mappings could be built from layers, which would >> be JS >> > objects containing groups of input and output mappings. In the >> GUI, >> > layers would be presented as tabs at the top of the mapping >> editor. >> > Button presses (or whatever) would be mapped to switch between >> layers. >> > By default, activating a layer would overwrite active mappings >> that >> > overlap with the layer being activated. Mixxx could remember the >> > previously active mappings and revert to that when a layer is >> disabled, >> > which would make implementing shift button layers trivially easy. >> Would >> > it make more sense to implement layering functionality in C++ or as >> a >> > JavaScript library making use of a new mapping (dis)connection >> function? >> > >> > >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Get Mixxx, the #1 Free MP3 DJ Mixing software Today >> > http://mixxx.org >> > >> > >> > Mixxx-devel mailing list >> > Mixxx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> <mailto:Mixxx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mixxx-devel >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> _______________________________________________ >> Get Mixxx, the #1 Free MP3 DJ Mixing software Today >> http://mixxx.org >> >> >> Mixxx-devel mailing list >> Mixxx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> <mailto:Mixxx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mixxx-devel >> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Get Mixxx, the #1 Free MP3 DJ Mixing software Today > http://mixxx.org > > > Mixxx-devel mailing list > Mixxx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mixxx-devel > -- http://www.ewancolsell.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Get Mixxx, the #1 Free MP3 DJ Mixing software Today http://mixxx.org Mixxx-devel mailing list Mixxx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mixxx-devel
