Sorry, didn't see the new thread. Please ignore my last mail :) 2016-08-25 9:13 GMT+02:00 Ferran Pujol Camins <ferranpujolcam...@gmail.com>:
> +1 to Be's proposal. > > "It should be possible to open a pane where it was, without >> > thinking" >> > > I understand your concerns, but as Be's pointed out, remembered > associations are confusing. I think it is not the best way to solve your > problem. My tabs proposal was an idea meant to solve this. Or the focus > block feature could also work. There are alternatives. > > We have to keep finding another approach that suits your use case but does > not relay on remembered associations :) > > 2016-08-21 23:47 GMT+02:00 Daniel Schürmann <dasch...@mixxx.org>: > >> >> Am 21.08.2016 um 23:04 schrieb Be: >> > Okay, I understand your proposal better. There are still differences in >> > what I'm proposing. I propose that there always be a right pane focused; >> > there would be no way to unset the focus. >> >> If we decide for such a schema, a very important requirement is not >> fulfilled: "It should be possible to open a pane where it was, without >> thinking". Without that feature, it is a pain to DJ with two panes, try >> it out ;-). In addition the simple midi menu -> sub-menu navigation does >> not work, it will always use the same pane. >> >> > There would not be any >> > corresponding indicator on the feature icons because the new icon >> > wouldn't create a remembered association. I think any method for >> > creating a remembered association would get confusing. What is shown on >> > screen at the present moment should very clearly indicate what will >> > happen when an icon is pressed without the user having to remember what >> > they did previously. >> >> Yes right, that would be still an issue. This can be solved by temporary >> preselect the pane (show pointing hand) when hovering over a desired >> feature button. >> >> > If I understand your proposal correctly, it would keep the current >> > behavior of requiring the feature icon to be clicked again to open the >> > left pane controls for a feature that already has a right track table >> > open. IMO this is cumbersome and a little confusing. >> >> It is slightly different (note: there is a pending bug in the current >> branch that prevent this): >> Lets say you have already a playlist in the right pane. >> You can preselect the left pane and select the desired second play-list >> from the playlist tree. Now you have two playlist side by side. >> If you do not touch the preselect icon, the new playlist will replace >> the playlist in the right pane. As I understand this would be the same >> in your proposal. >> >> > There should be a >> > way to show the corresponding left pane controls directly from the right >> > pane without having to move the cursor away to the feature icons. I >> > propose that focusing a right pane with the new icon would open its >> > corresponding left pane. >> >> We cannot do this in the current concept, because this would prevent the >> two playlists side by side use case as outlined above. >> >> > With the right pane focus decoupled from >> > clicking in the track tables, there would not be the issue of annoying >> > flickering of the left pane when clicking in different track tables. >> >> I am fine with changing the LibrarySidebarExpanded only by the button >> bar. This avoids the mentioned flickering and allows the sorting to >> playlist use case as discussed earlier. >> >> A track table focus dependent change of the LibrarySidebarExpanded will >> IMHO not add any additional value to the use. The Breadcrumb and the >> search bar should be sufficient to indicate the table state. >> >> >> > >> > On 08/21/2016 03:43 PM, Daniel Schürmann wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Am 21.08.2016 um 22:33 schrieb Be: >> >>>>> * When focused, a feature's left pane is shown. >> >>>>> * Clicking feature icons always opens the feature in the focused >> right pane. >> >>>> >> >>>> I do not understand these suggestions. Is it different from my >> original >> >>>> proposal? >> >>> >> >>> Yes. You suggested that the track table focus gets reset to the left >> >>> track table when a new feature is opened. I think that behavior would >> be >> >>> confusing. I propose that the focus only shifts when the user >> explicitly >> >>> decides to do so by clicking the new icon. Clicking a feature icon >> would >> >>> not affect where the focus is. >> >> >> >> Sorry for the confusion. I actually meant the same. Every icon has its >> >> own preselection pointing hand. If you preselect a pane, it is used for >> >> the next button bar click. After that the preselection is reset and no >> >> pane is preselected. >> >> A directly flowing click on the button bar will open a feature like it >> >> was seen before. >> >> This is required for a midi push knob with back button where you cannot >> >> preselect a pane. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Get Mixxx, the #1 Free MP3 DJ Mixing software Today >> >> http://mixxx.org >> >> >> >> >> >> Mixxx-devel mailing list >> >> Mixxx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mixxx-devel >> >> >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------------ >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Get Mixxx, the #1 Free MP3 DJ Mixing software Today >> > http://mixxx.org >> > >> > >> > Mixxx-devel mailing list >> > Mixxx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mixxx-devel >> > >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------------ >> _______________________________________________ >> Get Mixxx, the #1 Free MP3 DJ Mixing software Today >> http://mixxx.org >> >> >> Mixxx-devel mailing list >> Mixxx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mixxx-devel >> > >
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