Hallo

>         this seems like a simple question so i am sorry if it
> has already been answered.  i have looked over the archives
> earlier in the week, it is down right now, and the search function
> of sf archive's sometimes leaves me feeling lacking.

Please read the section a second time:
> A  quality  factor  should  be chosen that way that the mplex output of
> Peak bit-rate and average bit-rate differ by about 20-25%.  If the
> difference is very small < 10%, it is very likely that you have done
> something wrong. It is very likely that you have chosen  the  wrong
> values for the maximal bitrate or a quality factor that is too high.
--END--

> i was wondering how i could determine the average bitrate. ??
> ideally i would like program to tell me what it is.
You can only answer that question after you have encoded and MultiPLEXed
the stream with a audios stream.
That that two most interrestin lines look like that:
   INFO: [mplex] Average bit-rate :  4281600 bits/sec
   INFO: [mplex] Peak bit-rate    :  7093200  bits/sec
---END---

> i read where you can do the math to figure out what it was.
> files size/ length of video = average rate ( basically )
> 
> my problem could be that i only have the mpeg files that already
> have been mplexed with the audio in them.  i think that is messing
> up my computations.
If you have a multiplexed stream, you are a bit out of luck with mplex.
You would have to demux it, and remultiplex it, bat that is a bit to
time consuming. 

Programs like mplayer pint also out the maximal bitrate of the stream:
VIDEO:  MPEG2  720x576  (aspect 2)  25.00 fps  7500.0 kbps (937.5
kbyte/s)

But that does not tell you the average bitrate. But you can easly
calculate the average bitrate:
filesize / (number of frame / framerate) = bytes/sec *8 = bits/sec

bits/sec is the value mplex prints out !!!!
If you have a multiplexed stream you have to subtracts afterwards the
bitrate used for audio and 1-2% mplex information. 

> my basic goal is transfering DV tape to DVD, the tapes are home movies.
> i want high quality, but dont want to be wastefull.  encoding time isnt
> a real issue, because i am not in a hurry.
So you should see the average bitrate when you multiplex the stream. 

You should try it first with some shorter sequences (5-15 Minutes) with
differnet settings. And view them, if you like the quality. 

auf hoffentlich bald,

Berni the Chaos of Woodquarter

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