I've done a significant amount of dynoing with US
downpipe/cat, US downpipe/hollow cat, headers/cat,
headers/hollow cat and euro downpipe (no cat). 
According to the dyno they were all about the same
statistically.

-josh


--- [email protected] wrote:
> 1. Car in question:
> 
> '91 GTI 16V 
> w/European Motorworks stage II 1.8 16V head, euro
> intake cam, Garrett chip, 
> 50mm intake, Borla exhaust, 3.90 ring and pinion,
> and .80 5th gear
> 140hp@the wheels.
> 
> Recently, I added a set of Kent 258 regrinds... AND
> a big fat passat 
> catalytic converter.
> So, unfortunately it's not a totally accurate
> comparison, because the 
> catalytic will rob some high end power.
> 
> The idle is nice and still pretty smooth.  There's
> only a slight lump in the 
> exhaust note which most people probably won't even
> notice.  My gas mileage 
> seems to still be the same.
> 
> There's a slight loss of power under 4000 rpms (keep
> in mind the other mods I 
> have, like the euro intake), but there's a nice
> improvement from 
> 5000-7500rpms.  The powerband  feels like it drops
> off at about 7200rpms, but 
> the motor will rev easily to 7500rpms.
> 
> From my previous experiences with and without a cat
> on my car, it seems that 
> the cat really robs power above 6500rpms - basically
> in "cam territory".  If 
> I hadn't installed the cat, I think there would have
> been a bigger 
> improvement at the top end.  Also, even though the
> car still has PLENTY of 
> low end grunt, this is the first mod I've done that
> made a noticeable loss of 
> torque.
> 
> 
> 2. Previously, we had installed these cams in my
> friend Paul's 16V.  Here's 
> my observations from that car:
> 
> '87 GTI 16V 2.0L block, 1.8 head, autotech power
> module, eurosport exhaust, 
> euro intake cam.
> When we put the Kents in that car, we made no other
> mods, so this is a 
> slightly more accurate review.  
> Slight loss of low end below 4000 rpms (not as
> noticeable as in my car, 
> probably since Paul doesn't have a euro intake
> manifold), and a nice gain 
> from 4500-6500rpms.  
> We were very pleased with the results.
> 
> 
> 
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Josh Wyte 
Momentum Motorsports
508-833-3024 After 5 pm EST

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