16 degrees seems extreme.  Is that a typo?  With an adjustable cam 
sprocket what improvements did you notice?

On Thu, 15 May 2003, Mark Reda wrote:

> Chad,
> Try timing the car with the stock chip and set the fuel mixture to stock.
> Let the engine warm up and go through a few fan cycles.
> Make sure that the ignition timing is set to 6deg advanced.
> You'll have the drill that rivet to get at the fuel mixture.
> 
> The chip will adjust the timing advance and fuel mixture by itself.
> That's probably why you're hearing the ping.
> Adjust the cam timing by getting an adjustable cam sprocket.
> As far as I know Garrett makes the chips for TT.  If you're still hearing
> knocking then contact TT.
> 
> Last summer I was running my 2.0l 16V CIS-E Motronic at 16Deg Advanced and
> pulled like a mo-fo all the way to the redline, and wanted to keep going.  I
> later had to trim the timing back because of some pinging.
> 
> It's safer to run a bit rich than run too lean.
> 
> Hope that helps,
> Mark.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chad Rebuck" <[email protected]>
> To: "16v" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2003 4:06 PM
> Subject: [a2-16v-list] setting mixture on cis-e motronic
> 
> 
> > I am going to attempt to verify and adjust the mixture on my 90 jetta 16v.
> > It is a cis-e motronic.  I am using the info on the following page:
> >
> > http://www.iders.com/alexweb/vwtuning1.html
> >
> > I have a tt chip programmed for the tt cams installed now and my car has
> > slight ping under load.  It has always had a slight ping, barely audible,
> > but you can feel the car back off the timing.  The new tt chip and cams
> > seems to have made it a little more noticible than my old tt chip.  I've
> > already set the timing for 5 degrees advance and that didn't make any
> > difference.  Anyone have tips on how to adjust the mixture aside from this
> > page?  What is the best way to get access to the adjustment screw?  Drill
> > and thread a small screw into the plug then pull it out?  Has anyone done
> > this except Alex, who created the help page above?  :)
> >
> > Chad
> >
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