What do you know about hawk hp plus?

Sounds like a less aggressive pad than the dtc.  Wonder if they would
handle track days and still be something I could use daily.

http://www.hawkperformance.com/performance/hpplus.php

On Monday, June 25, 2012, Matthew Yip wrote:

> The RWD Beetle is called a 911...
>
>
>
> >________________________________
> > From: Chad Rebuck <[email protected] <javascript:;>>
> >To: Volkswagen a2 16v discussion list 
> ><[email protected]<javascript:;>
> >
> >Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 4:08 PM
> >Subject: Re: [a2-16v-list] Oil temp / brakes at the track
> >
> >A new rear wheel drive vw?  I don't even find much in the way of a google
> >search with those words.  Was that a typo?
> >
> >On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Matthew Yip <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> Josh reminds me that the Blues are brutal on rotors. The HT-10a are
> easier
> >> on rotors but they're still not what I'd call "rotor friendly".
> >>
> >> Good brake pads are expensive - there isn't a way around that. Having
> said
> >> that though, be thankful you don't own the newest version of the RWD
> Beetle
> >> - pads for those cara are in the $300+ range.
> >>
> >> - Matthew -
> >>
> >> On Jun 25, 2012, at 11:24, Chad Rebuck <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Thanks Matthew,
> >> >
> >> > My gli is a street car, but I don't really drive it a great deal
> anymore.
> >> > I have managed to rack up 4000 miles since finishing the engine
> rebuild
> >> > last September :)
> >> >
> >> > Wow, I checked out the price of the dtc-30 pads and they are just over
> >> $100
> >> > for the front.  Last set of mintex redbox pads I bought cost me $70
> for
> >> all
> >> > 4 wheels.  I'll give the dtc-30 a try at the next event though.
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 10:57 PM, Matthew Yip <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Careful when mentioning my name and weighing in - fat Asian guys
> could
> >> >> take offense...<G>
> >> >>
> >> >> Oil temps sound about right - my 16v (with a smallish Mocal cooler)
> are
> >> in
> >> >> the 270 range after a 30-45 minute session with Mobil 1 5W-30 oil.  I
> >> agree
> >> >> with Josh - so long as you're using a synthetic oil, oil temps, are
> less
> >> >> critical.  My coolant temps sky-rocket on the track though and I
> can't
> >> >> figure out why - I have a replacement radiator to install but haven't
> >> had a
> >> >> chance to do that yet (or even race in 2012 but that's another
> issue).
> >> >>
> >> >> I don't have any experience with Mintex other than an old set of
> >> >> Metal-Munchers that deliminated and another set of Red Box(?) that
> >> lasted
> >> >> 15 minutes before going the way of the dinosaurs.  The GLi has 10.1s,
> >> IIRC.
> >> >> The GTI has 9.4s and I'm running Hawk HT-10s on my GTi because they
> work
> >> >> in a higher temperature range than the Blue.  For the GLi, Hawk
> produces
> >> >> the DTC-30.  I don't have experience with them but have heard they
> are
> >> >> excellent.  We run 20 lap races which are 30-45 min in length - with
> the
> >> >> Blue pads, I'd encounter fading about half-way thru a race - the
> HT-10s
> >> >> have a similar feel from start to finish which helps build confidence
> >> >> although I still hold that the brakes are on the car in front of me
> ;)
> >> >>
> >> >> Chad - your idea of using an aggressive front pad combined with a
> lesser
> >> >> rear pad is fine.  I've been doing that for years and find that the
> best
> >> >> rear pads are the Auto Zone "$19.99" (or cheaper) junk organic pads.
> >> >> Granted, your GLi has more weight in the rear than my GTi, the
> reality
> >> is
> >> >> that the vast majority of the weight in these cars is over the front
> >> wheels
> >> >> - under heavy braking, the suspension unloads the rear and the wheels
> >> lock
> >> >> up, even with heavy front springs to control the dive.  I've tried
> >> >> everything short of re-plumbing the brake lines for a manual
> >> proportioning
> >> >> valve and it's just part of driving an FWD car.  I have a competitor
> >> whose
> >> >> comment was "I NEVER look for your brake lights but when I see tyre
> >> smoke,
> >> >> I KNOW you're braking".  When my crew guy, Brian, started racing (in
> my
> >> >> car), I watched him in a few turns - he'd ask "How'd it look?  I was
> >> >> braking like mad".
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