Hmm, does anyone know if R12 has been completely banned in the US? The last
time I had the AC on my '92 here in California, R12 was still available,
but it was something like $200+/pound. Fortunately, I had only a tiny leak
in the system, and the machine that they used to evacuate the system
actually retained the coolant, and filtered it prior to recharging the
system. I only had to pay for a few ounces of additional R12 to top up the
system. That was several years ago, so I wouldn't be surprised if the EPA
and CARB have 100% outlawed R12. They used to sell R134a conversion kits at
most auto parts stores, which consisted of the oil, the R134a, and adapter
fittings, since when the auto manufacturers went to R134a, they changed the
configuration of the fill/evac fittings. Just my 2ยข...

~Holland
On Aug 26, 2015 8:06 PM, "'Matthew Yip' via MK2-16v" <
[email protected]> wrote:

> From what I recall, the oil is the incompatible part of the R134a puzzle.
> Some folks suggest replacing the receiver-dryer but I don't know if that is
> necessary if you evacuate the system using a vacuum. Then use an
> R12-friendly oil (I think all the oils are compatible anymore) and fill
> with 134a.
>
> The downside to R134a is that it doesn't cool as well as R12. It's more
> about capacity than it is about having modern components though. To cool as
> well as an R12 system, an R134a system has to be larger although I don't
> remember how much larger.
>
> The difference won't be 70 degree air vs 30 degree air but the system
> won't make snowflakes either. In FL in August, it might be noticeable
> especially when sitting in traffic but at highway speeds, it should be
> fine.
>
> - Matthew -
>
> On Aug 26, 2015, at 22:43, Larry Velez <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I know many have ripped out their AC systems but where I am (Tampa) it is
> just not an option.
>
> How are you all keeping your AC systems working these days?   Which newer
> refrigerants are compatible now that R12 is no longer available and any
> tricks to get a nice cold system?
>
> I wonder if swapping in a modern compressor is an option?
>
> Planning ahead to fixing my AC system.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Larry
> 91 GTI 16V
>
>
>
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