I find the whole situation silly. To think about an organization that raised BILLIONS in fines from Exxon and British Petroleum then spends it lavishly on themselves as a watchdog of the environment falls flat with me. Then they contaminate the Animas river and no one gets fined or loses their job over an environmental catastrophe they created. The scale of that fiasco was large enough to impact Colorado and New Mexico.
CARB and EPA have colluded together for decades. They've villified diesel engines for as long as I can remember. Here in Kalifornia, back in the 90s made it so difficult to sell TDIs that the California dealerships worked out a deal with Northwest dealerships to trade their allotment of Diesels for VR6s. I can understand why VWAG did what they did if you realize that CARB set unrealistic sulfur content regulations about 10 years ago. They literally took one graduate student's work on sulfur analysis in diesel fuel and its effect on global warming, then multiplied the results by 4X. Then wrote that standard into legislation which was approved by the CA Senate. The result was VW and Mercedes had to scrap an entire diesel engine program and go back to redesign and retooling to meet these new higher standards. I remember the trucking industry complaining about the price of the newly reformulated diesel fuel falling on deaf ears. The press did little to cover those issues in favor of the green weenies in Sacramento. What happens in California has a ripple affect on car manufacturing around the world. The other 49 states will usually comply with California standards. Being the largest automobile market on the planet, every auto manufacturer bows to the unelected California Air Resources Board. I spoke to a gentleman who worked at Arco who told me Diesel is easier and less expensive to refine than gasoline. But all of the regulated formulations in CA make it more expensive than regular gas. He stunned me when he told me they have to manufacture 66 different formulations of gasoline to comply with all of the various CARB, county, and local regulations imposed upon them for environmental purposes. Ever wonder why gas is more expensive in CA than anywhere else in the country? There is hint that BMW and Mercedes also might guilty of the same. The EPA right now is drooling over this potential cash cow so they can buy more $817 pencil holders and $2500 Herman Miller chairs. I understand why the automakers did it. I'm sure they're not the only ones. I'd read the German Government knew VWAG was doing it. They simply got caught doing it. There's going to be a lot of money exchanged before this goes away. -Les On Sep 28, 2015, at 9:09 AM, Larry Velez wrote: > Anyone have any thoughts on this whole VW diesel issue? I am not surprised > to hear that it might be spreading to Audi and Porsche since they all use the > same Bosch systems to control emissions. I guess Bosch can protect > themselves by saying that each customer can use any settings they want in > their sub-systems. > > It is a mar in the image of a brand we all probably like here. > > Best rumor I heard was that if VW were to give everyone affected a free > electric car - they would come out of this a winner and the overnight leader > in electric cars, after spending many billions. > > Anyone here affected by this, what are your thoughts on all this? > > I don’t own any diesel vehicles so not directly impacted. > > -Larry > 91 GTI 16V > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MK2-16v" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mk2-16v. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mk2-16v/ab669d3076d64c39957d4f925192af55%40MBX082-E1-VA-2.EXCH082.SERVERPOD.NET. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MK2-16v" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mk2-16v. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mk2-16v/770CF303-3E0F-49AD-B805-241E0DD23A6A%40gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
