Hmm - that's the first time anyone has called my Land Rover a classic.  They 
usually use other names that can't be repeated in mixed company <G>.  
The newer fuel systems use Viton, a rubber derivative that is specifically 
designed to ward off the ill effects of alcohol in the fuel.  The old CIS-E 
systems really, really didn't like alcohol - I knew a fellow that lost several 
engines because alcohol angered the fuel distributor AND the fuel manufacturer 
swore the fuel didn't have any alcohol.  The catch was that the company that 
built the fuel distributor's comment was "That ONLY happens when there's 
alcohol in the fuel - period".   


     On Monday, November 9, 2015 12:36 PM, Larry Velez <[email protected]> wrote:
   

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Thanks for sharing your classic car fuel regimen.  Good to know.  I don’t mind 
the extra cost since the cost of repairing the damage is higher and time 
consuming.    I wish I had known about the dangers of Ethanol before I let my 
car sit.  It has cost me a lot of time and headaches.    I guess this is how 
you learn things sometimes,  the hard way.  Stabil is your friend…    Btw,  why 
don’t modern cars have these problems – do they use different rubber material 
in fuel system parts which are immune to ethanol effects?    I will see if I 
can find some 92 octane somewhere near.    To reiterate something we discussed 
some months ago,  there is a website that helps you find ethanol free gas 
nearby: http://pure-gas.org/    One related question, if I can only find 89 
Octane Ethanol Free gasoline near me – would any of the octane boost products 
help or are they just snake oil?    Thanks,    -Larry 91 GTI 16V    From: 
[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of 
[email protected]
Sent: Saturday, November 7, 2015 10:24 AM
To: MK2-16v <[email protected]>
Cc: Larry Velez <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [mk2-16v] Ethanol Free Gasoline?    I started using ethanol free 
fuel in some of my older vehicles a few years ago. That happened about the time 
when I purchased a new lawn mower. I have also used it occasionally in my 
Toyota Tundra as well. First time I did that was on a towing trip for an 
Antique Car Show. Found a convenience store selling ethanol free fuel right off 
I-81 in Virginia. With the lower gas taxes in VA that made the cost less than 
the ethanol fuel in PA. An added bonus was an 8% increase in fuel mileage when 
using the ethanol free fuel in my Tundra. I found a country store somewhat 
close to my house that sells ethanol free fuel. At the beginning of each summer 
driving season I fill up a few 5 gallon gas containers with ethanol free fuel, 
add some gas stabilizer and I am set. I use this fuel in my '87 GTI 16V, '80 
Rabbit (carb), '81 VW Pickup and lawnmower. Since I do not drive these vehicles 
a lot I do not fill each of their fuel tanks so I do not have a lot of old fuel 
in their tanks. All the VWs I use this fuel in run MUCH better with ethanol 
free fuel especially the '80 Rabbit with the carb. The only downside to ethanol 
free fuel is the higher cost. For me that amounts to around .80 to 1.00 more 
per gallon. For me that is a small price to pay. Would be nice if the local 
Wawa sold ethanol free fuel. That might help get the cost down. BTW, the place 
I get my ethanol free fuel only sells that type of fuel and in 87, 89 and 92 
octane. They do a brisk business with owners of motorcycles, antique vehicles 
and a LOT of Landscape Companies. The volume of sales is good because that 
means they get regular fuel deliveries so their fuel does not get old. It also 
helps that they are the only source of this fuel for 30-40 miles. -- 
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