Hi Eric,

the option --add-pois-to-lines is operates on the nodes of the ways before any 
style rules were executed. So,
whatever you do in the lines rules has no effect on the generated points.

Gerd

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Hi Gerd,

I also have a - similar? - issue implementing poi2line.
I cannot Add or Delete poi2line nodes.

Perhaps (as you said):
"One problem with your suggested solution is that the current implementation in 
mkgmap processes (tagged) nodes before lines".

In 'lines' this is working OK:

access:conditional = 'no @ sunset-sunrise'      { delete access:conditional }
access:conditional = 'no @ sunset - sunrise'    { delete access:conditional }
access:conditional = 'no @ (sunset-sunrise)'    { delete access:conditional }
access:conditional = 'no @ (sunset - sunrise)'  { delete access:conditional }

opening_hours      = '24/7'                                    { delete 
opening_hours }
opening_hours      = '(24/7)'                                 { delete 
opening_hours }

and 50 more lines of script because these tags are useless and/or polluting the 
map and/or default and/or needless. IMO!

But once I add 'omsid()=...' to mkgmap it doesn't work anymore to remove 
line2poi.

highway=unclassified & osmid()=912437951 {delete smoothness; delete 
opening_hours}

In next example I delete all tags (don't want to render this highway), highway 
is deleted (not rendered) but line2poi is still rendered.

highway=cycleway & osmid()=1011546906 {deletealltags}

I also cannot ADD a line2poi tag:

highway=unclassified & osmid()=176775241 {set opening_hours="may be closed 
during sport events"}

I want to add private tags (line2poi), IMO tags, subjective tags, 'necessary' 
tags (IMO) that are not allowed on OSM (f.i.: bicycle=dismount, scenic=yes, 
which are only 'allowed' if a (traffic)sign is 'on the ground' to confirm 
dismount/scenic).

AnkEric

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Subject: Re: [mkgmap-dev] Test if POI is part of a line

Hi Felix,

the current implementation of the link-pois-to-ways doesn't transfer the access 
tag(s) to the way. It just creates a route restriction which tells Garmin that 
it must not route the given vehicles through the barrier. Older implementations 
created a short stub close to the barrier node.

Gerd


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Hartmann <extremecar...@gmail.com>
Gesendet: Montag, 10. Oktober 2022 12:13
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Also I don't like using --link-pois-to-ways to put an access=private onto a 
road - and then remove this road. Because in the case of a park - the 
footways/pathes on both sides of the gate do exist. So an access=private does 
not actually apply to the road. So it's correct to show the road, and show the 
gate that is blocking the road. I think this is better that deleting that road 
because of the gate.

On Mon, 10 Oct 2022 at 11:47, Felix Hartmann 
<extremecar...@gmail.com<mailto:extremecar...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Gerd,

No  --add-poi-to-lines creates points from a line that has certain tags. What I 
try to achieve is actually to remove points that are NOT part of a line / or  
part of a line that is not rendered in the map. There is no reason to show a 
gate if you don't have a line/road.So essentially for me there is no sense to 
show a gate for me if it is not part of a routable line.
However points created by add-pois-to-lines are also not what I want - because 
it would show the gate in an incorrect position.

So the clutch of using --link-pois-to-ways  to get the access tags onto the 
line - then never show an actual barrier=gate/highway=gate but only show one 
created by the --add-poi-to-line command?  The logical solution is to really 
only show a gate where it is tagged, but only if the map is creating a routable 
line for it and remove all other barrier=* / highway=gate / entrance=yes POI.


If this is too much work to implement - then drop it. But as far as I 
understand right now there is no good solution by mkgmap for this. The same 
would be for traffic lights - if you remove a road because your map does not 
show private roads - but a private road has a traffic light - this traffic 
light should not be in the map either. And yes I know the dilemma - we need 
points to be looked at pre lines for --link-pois-to-ways to work, but for some 
other things we would need to look at them later again. So this would need to 
be some kind of seond_finalize rules in the points file that is executed after 
the lines file - and removes points from the map again. It's not a big problem 
- but right now this really makes it inconvenient to put gates into your map - 
as 75% of gates are just cluttering up the map without providing any 
information to the user (except if you want to create a cataster type of map 
showing everything). Leaving gates out completely on the other hand makes it 
very ha
   rd to show for example with parks where people can enter and where not. As 
very often there are service entries to parks not open to public - so these are 
the main ones that we want to show in a map.

On Mon, 10 Oct 2022 at 08:35, Gerd Petermann 
<gpetermann_muenc...@hotmail.com<mailto:gpetermann_muenc...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Felix,

my first thought was that --add-poi-to-lines is all that you need, but maybe 
I've missed something?

One problem with your suggested solution is that the current implementation in 
mkgmap processes
(tagged) nodes before lines. I can't remember exactly why but a change probably 
causes side effects.

Gerd


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Betreff: [mkgmap-dev] Test if POI is part of a line

I read through the old
poi-tagged-v3.patch

is_in()function for point on line discussion - but what I want is actually 
different and should be much easier?

Could there be a solution to check if a point is a single point vs if it is 
part of a open/closed line?
Why?

I would only like to display barrier/highway=gate point icons if they are part 
of a (best routable) line. Especially for gates  most are just useless clutter 
because they are tagged on private houses and similar.

If there was a way to delete afterwards/or create only in first place those 
points that are part of a line would be good, best would be if they are only 
shown if part of a routable line (so after the lines stye-file is processed).

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