Not to hijack this thread, Anton, I suggest you to contact me on my email to help you solve the ET problem.
On 3/11/07, Anton Xuereb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Ok James, you are my man, iv been trying to make ET run well with TS2 and other sounds apps but with no success...help pls ? msn or jabber or something ? aside: 1) linux bootcamps need to be hosted somewere...if a venue is sponsored by a school..no one will allow you to do a 3 days boot camp or else no one will go to their courses afterwards 2) hotels cost lots of money which we (and most of the oss community) ddont have to be able to host such a talk/meeting On 3/11/07, James Attard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My dream is twofold: > > 1) linux bootcamps - like 2 or 3 days hardcore linux, we discuss things, > technical stuff etc > 2) > linux conferecens - we see Oracle talks, .NET talks, Microsoft talks - why not organize meetings open for the public at conference halls like in hotels where we TECHNICALLY talk about linux or opensource products - we see conferences about ORacle and MSSQL - why not about mysql? we should volunteer ourselves in such activities. I am quite confident that these attract many geeks. > > > As regard gaming, I'm an 'Enemy Territory' hardcore, running on linux. > > James > > On 3/11/07, Jean Azzopardi < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I heard about the Linux courses, and I did notice that there are a > > number of people out there who are interested in it. My concern is > > people in secondary-tertiary schools. > > > > Anton was at my school, and as you remember, an average of only 1-10 > > per 200 people used linux regularly. The others either don't care or > > else give up. And gaming plays a huge part...when you mention that > > Linux > > cannot be used for hardcore gaming without some major tweaking, their > > eyes glaze over and I know I've lost them. > > > > However, there is hope when it comes to restoring old computers. A guy > > in my class restored an old laptop with Zenwalk Linux and liked it > > quite > > a lot. Another one tried out Linux for Beryl and managed...but got > > bored. > > > > The perception is usually like this: > > > > 1. It's free...so it's either pirated or it has to suck. > > 2. It's difficult. It's command line only...Youch, I hate the > > terminal. > > 3. No games. > > 4. What, no Word? No Excel? > > > > And try and try to convince them, they remain skeptics to the bitter > > end. > > > > And in Malta, the price issue is not that much as elsewhere. Given > > that > > most students either crack Windows and other software...hell I know > > students who never paid for Windows...the price difference is not that > > much in their eyes, so what are we making a fuss about? Piracy is > > illegal? Everyone does it, why bother? > > > > Still, where people do care about piracy being illegal, the fact that > > Linux is gratis means a lot...even though they don't know/care what > > opensource really means. > > > > Linux bootcamp, I'll go for it. What's also needed is showing how > > Linux > > is perfectly usable, even in a dualboot configuration alongside > > Windows. > > Personally, I managed to use Linux for the whole of sixth form...even > > going so far as to use Dosbox to run Turbo Pascal on Linux...so I > > wouldn't dualboot to work on my cs project. > > > > How's the situation in Uni? Does anyone know if Linux is the champ > > there? > > > > Regarding Xarabank...yeah, a lot of publicity there...but does Joe > > Public care? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anton Xuereb wrote: > > > I would go on the panel of xarabank.. > > > > > > now seriously... > > > > > > there is quite an interesting trend that is taking shape > > lately...for > > > instance..the MIIT is doing linux courses..David Degaetano is making > > > LPI courses...so Is STC Along with RHCE Courses..also (even if > > > stupidly and without any actual grounding) STC pushed hp's IT > > > Essentials 2 courses as covering lots of linux (were infact only an > > > introduction is covered)..I worked at STC up to a few weeks ago and > > > the response was amazing...lots of ppl called in to ask about the > > > lajnux courses...M$ of course can afford to push stuff that everyone > > > already knows about and thus many ppl will flock to buy the cheap > > > office 2007 and vista packages...An upcoming activity that the LUG > > > will be doing will (altho discussions are still taking place) be > > that > > > of doing a linux bootcamp and try to attract as many pc users > > > interested (or not ) in linux as possible. > > > > > > M > > > > > > On 3/11/07, *Philip Serracino Inglott* < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > > > > > Sadly, I feel that this situation is partly our fault too. We, > > as > > > the Linux community, might not be doing enough to spread the > > word. > > > In a sense its not our job. As a USER group our aim is to > > support > > > established and interested users (I'm sure there are many more > > > Linux users out there in Malta who are not reading any of this). > > > But if we have to take advocacy seriously, its a pretty tough > > job > > > to take on purely as volunteers. > > > > > > Think of what would happen if we found a sponsor and published a > > > bunch of Edubuntu CDs with informative leaflets and distributed > > > them in schools. Image the press release "Local NGO distributes > > a > > > few million Euros worth of software to all secondry school > > > students studying Computers", That would have an impact! (btw. > > the > > > amount would be based on a study, wich i don't have at hand, > > that > > > calculates the cost of recreating Debian from scratch) > > > > > > But really how many of us on this list would be willing to try > > and > > > approach peppi to try and have a Xarabank on how the > > government's > > > IT strategy vis-a-vis free software? I fell that us linux guys > > > tend to be a bit snobbish sometimes. > > > > > > Probably if we want to change the tide there are two things we > > > need to do, 1. Swell our numbers. 2. at the first opportunity > > > issue a FORMAL reaction to something the government does. This > > > second step is important to establish MLUG as an interested > > party. > > > > > > Philip > > > > > > > > > On 11/03/07, *James Attard* < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > > > > > Hey Jean, > > > > > > Coincidentally I was just writing an article on my website > > > <http://www.jamesattard.com/2007/03/linux-education-programme.html > > > > > > about the situation, but remarking a sign of hope. This is > > > after the Linux Education Programme happening as of next > > week > > > due to an agreement between IBM and MIIIT. So I believe > > things > > > are getting better. > > > > > > James > > > > > > > > > On 3/11/07, *Jean Azzopardi* < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> wrote: > > > > > > I am going to be as frank as I possibly can. > > > > > > The situation is scaring me. All over Europe, we can see > > > governments > > > warming towards linux, educating students to use Linux, > > etc. > > > In Malta, on the other hand, all we hear about is > > > Microsoft, and how the > > > government is sucking up towards it. How offers are > > being > > > made from > > > Microsoft towards our students, how Microsoft is > > "innovating", > > > anyway...microsoft, microsoft, microsoft. > > > > > > Linux never gets a say...it's like the Government has > > > totally ignored > > > it. 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