Could we ask MS to foot the bill? :) Is there anywhere rather than a hotel? Some parish hall maybe?
Anton Xuereb wrote: > ara if ud like the grandmaster hall at radisson costs LM575 per day :) > > On 3/11/07, *Jean Azzopardi* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > Personally, I play tremulous the most...followed by UT 2004, Quake 4, > and Wesnoth. > > 2 or 3 days hardcore linux...cool, but location, location... > > James Attard wrote: > > My dream is twofold: > > > > 1) linux bootcamps - like 2 or 3 days hardcore linux, we discuss > > things, technical stuff etc > > 2) > > linux conferecens - we see Oracle talks, .NET talks, Microsoft > talks - why not organize meetings open for the public at > conference halls like in hotels where we TECHNICALLY talk about > linux or opensource products - we see conferences about ORacle and > MSSQL - why not about mysql? we should volunteer ourselves in such > activities. I am quite confident that these attract many geeks. > > > > > > As regard gaming, I'm an 'Enemy Territory' hardcore, running on > linux. > > > > James > > > > On 3/11/07, *Jean Azzopardi* < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> wrote: > > > > I heard about the Linux courses, and I did notice that there > are a > > number of people out there who are interested in it. My > concern is > > people in secondary-tertiary schools. > > > > Anton was at my school, and as you remember, an average of > only 1-10 > > per 200 people used linux regularly. The others either don't > care or > > else give up. And gaming plays a huge part...when you > mention that > > Linux > > cannot be used for hardcore gaming without some major > tweaking, their > > eyes glaze over and I know I've lost them. > > > > However, there is hope when it comes to restoring old > computers. A guy > > in my class restored an old laptop with Zenwalk Linux and > liked it > > quite > > a lot. Another one tried out Linux for Beryl and > managed...but got > > bored. > > > > The perception is usually like this: > > > > 1. It's free...so it's either pirated or it has to suck. > > 2. It's difficult. It's command line only...Youch, I > hate the > > terminal. > > 3. No games. > > 4. What, no Word? No Excel? > > > > And try and try to convince them, they remain skeptics to the > > bitter end. > > > > And in Malta, the price issue is not that much as elsewhere. > Given > > that > > most students either crack Windows and other software...hell > I know > > students who never paid for Windows...the price difference > is not that > > much in their eyes, so what are we making a fuss about? > Piracy is > > illegal? Everyone does it, why bother? > > > > Still, where people do care about piracy being illegal, the > fact that > > Linux is gratis means a lot...even though they don't > know/care what > > opensource really means. > > > > Linux bootcamp, I'll go for it. What's also needed is > showing how > > Linux > > is perfectly usable, even in a dualboot configuration alongside > > Windows. > > Personally, I managed to use Linux for the whole of sixth > form...even > > going so far as to use Dosbox to run Turbo Pascal on > Linux...so I > > wouldn't dualboot to work on my cs project. > > > > How's the situation in Uni? Does anyone know if Linux is the > champ > > there? > > > > Regarding Xarabank...yeah, a lot of publicity there...but > does Joe > > Public care? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anton Xuereb wrote: > > > I would go on the panel of xarabank.. > > > > > > now seriously... > > > > > > there is quite an interesting trend that is taking shape > > lately...for > > > instance..the MIIT is doing linux courses..David Degaetano > is making > > > LPI courses...so Is STC Along with RHCE Courses..also (even if > > > stupidly and without any actual grounding) STC pushed hp's IT > > > Essentials 2 courses as covering lots of linux (were > infact only an > > > introduction is covered)..I worked at STC up to a few > weeks ago and > > > the response was amazing...lots of ppl called in to ask > about the > > > lajnux courses...M$ of course can afford to push stuff > that everyone > > > already knows about and thus many ppl will flock to buy > the cheap > > > office 2007 and vista packages...An upcoming activity that > the LUG > > > will be doing will (altho discussions are still taking > place) be > > that > > > of doing a linux bootcamp and try to attract as many pc users > > > interested (or not ) in linux as possible. > > > > > > M > > > > > > On 3/11/07, *Philip Serracino Inglott* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > > > <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>>> wrote: > > > > > > Sadly, I feel that this situation is partly our fault > too. > > We, as > > > the Linux community, might not be doing enough to > spread the > > word. > > > In a sense its not our job. As a USER group our aim is to > > support > > > established and interested users (I'm sure there are > many more > > > Linux users out there in Malta who are not reading any > of this). > > > But if we have to take advocacy seriously, its a pretty > > tough job > > > to take on purely as volunteers. > > > > > > Think of what would happen if we found a sponsor and > published a > > > bunch of Edubuntu CDs with informative leaflets and > distributed > > > them in schools. Image the press release "Local NGO > > distributes a > > > few million Euros worth of software to all secondry school > > > students studying Computers", That would have an impact! > > (btw. the > > > amount would be based on a study, wich i don't have at > hand, > > that > > > calculates the cost of recreating Debian from scratch) > > > > > > But really how many of us on this list would be willing to > > try and > > > approach peppi to try and have a Xarabank on how the > > government's > > > IT strategy vis-a-vis free software? I fell that us > linux guys > > > tend to be a bit snobbish sometimes. > > > > > > Probably if we want to change the tide there are two > things we > > > need to do, 1. Swell our numbers. 2. at the first > opportunity > > > issue a FORMAL reaction to something the government > does. This > > > second step is important to establish MLUG as an > interested > > party. > > > > > > Philip > > > > > > > > > On 11/03/07, *James Attard* < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>>> wrote: > > > > > > Hey Jean, > > > > > > Coincidentally I was just writing an article on my > website > > > > > < > http://www.jamesattard.com/2007/03/linux-education-programme.html> > > > about the situation, but remarking a sign of hope. > This is > > > after the Linux Education Programme happening as > of next > > week > > > due to an agreement between IBM and MIIIT. So I > believe > > things > > > are getting better. > > > > > > James > > > > > > > > > On 3/11/07, *Jean Azzopardi* < > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>>> wrote: > > > > > > I am going to be as frank as I possibly can. > > > > > > The situation is scaring me. All over Europe, > we can see > > > governments > > > warming towards linux, educating students to use > > Linux, etc. > > > In Malta, on the other hand, all we hear about is > > > Microsoft, and how the > > > government is sucking up towards it. How > offers are > > being > > > made from > > > Microsoft towards our students, how Microsoft is > > "innovating", > > > anyway...microsoft, microsoft, microsoft. > > > > > > Linux never gets a say...it's like the > Government has > > > totally ignored > > > it. 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