You can install normal distros on it too. Ubuntu, Mandriva, whatever you like. The nice thing about it is that it isn't a closed platform.
On Sun, 2008-05-25 at 17:46 +0200, Alan Muscat wrote: > Hi Guys, > > I'm really happy seeing MLUG mail so active. Keep the ideas coming. > > About the Asus Eee PC, you don't need to remain in Easy Mode (as it is > called), you can upgrade to a full desktop by following these > intructions: > > (1) CTRL + ALT + T > (2) sudo apt-get update > (3) sudo apt-get install kicker > (4) Agree to the installation > (5) sudo apt-get install kmserver > (6) Agree once again to the installation > (7) exit > (8) Click the power button as if you were going to shut down > (9) A new option will now be available for a Full Desktop > > Regards, > > Alan. > > On Sun, 2008-05-25 at 00:24 +0200, Jean Azzopardi wrote: > > I've looked at screenshots of the EEEpc, it seems to utilise tabs, etc, > > and IceWm? It seems userfriendly..although alien compared to > > Gnome/windows/KDE > > > > It's not such a bad concept, though, at least in my opinion. In the end, > > the user should decide. > > > > On Sat, 2008-05-24 at 23:31 +0200, Anton Xuereb wrote: > > > windows is completely different bowl of fish...we aim to give choice > > > to the user..the eeepc is restrictive in itself and for the major > > > part, no one will have an interface such as the one of the eeepc on > > > his desktop, which is why we should strive at getting the user > > > comfortable with a full blown gnome or kde system. Once that is > > > mastered the interface of the eeepc will be easy > > > > > > On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 11:14 PM, Jean Azzopardi > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > So might as well wash our hands of the millions who use > > > Windows? > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 2008-05-24 at 23:05 +0200, Anton Xuereb wrote: > > > > ofcourse, however if a user get used to the interface of the > > > eeepc, > > > > he's gonna find it hard to get used to a full blown desktop > > > such as > > > > gnome or kde > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 10:42 PM, Jean Azzopardi > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Pardon me, but I don't think that's particularly > > > important. > > > > > > > > Most normal users don't warn to learn Linux. They > > > just learn > > > > to use > > > > whatever GUI is given to them, be it > > > Gnome/KDE/explorer.exe/OS > > > > X, or the > > > > interface of the EEEpc. > > > > > > > > Things are supposed to work, because the hardware is > > > > customised for it. > > > > Almost nobody needs to use the terminal for that > > > regard. > > > > > > > > And what would you define learning linux? Learning > > > Ubuntu? > > > > Becoming a > > > > gnome poweruser? Or a KDE poweruser? Very few things > > > are > > > > central among > > > > all Linux distributions. Even bash can be replaced > > > with fish, > > > > zsh, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 2008-05-24 at 22:27 +0200, Anton Xuereb > > > wrote: > > > > > What i mean is that the eeepc is a sandbox, it in > > > itself > > > > works fine, > > > > > no quirks no problems, so anyone using it will be > > > on a point > > > > and click > > > > > diet...the ui is way dumbed down and the options > > > are > > > > restricted...it's > > > > > a much different experience than having a desktop > > > pc with > > > > ubuntu > > > > > installed and your wic doesnt work > > > > > > > > > > M > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 10:11 PM, Jean Azzopardi > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > But how do you "learn linux"? The best way > > > to teach > > > > someone > > > > > linux is > > > > > lock him in a room and not let him out > > > until he can > > > > install > > > > > Gentoo, > > > > > stage 1, blindfolded, without a keyboard, > > > or mouse. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 2008-05-24 at 22:05 +0200, Anton > > > Xuereb > > > > wrote: > > > > > > I did actually handle an eeepc...very > > > nice machine > > > > altho > > > > > totally > > > > > > useless for anyone who wants to _learn_ > > > linux..If > > > > you just > > > > > wanna use > > > > > > it then it's great and amazing! > > > > > > > > > > > > Jean: about the modded distro...we have > > > already > > > > discussed > > > > > the idea > > > > > > during the last meeting, mostly for a > > > distribution > > > > targeted > > > > > to IT > > > > > > students with developement tools already > > > > installed. > > > > > > > > > > > > M > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 9:31 PM, > > > Gianluca Magro > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > To be honest, I don't think > > > converting > > > > software to > > > > > the Maltese > > > > > > language would really help... > > > most people > > > > prefer to > > > > > use > > > > > > software in English... I mean > > > there is the > > > > Maltese > > > > > language in > > > > > > Windows.. but usually people > > > choose > > > > English as the > > > > > language > > > > > > for their OS and not Maltese... > > > Most tech > > > > words > > > > > would still be > > > > > > in English anyway. Of course the > > > upstream > > > > would be a > > > > > nice > > > > > > thing, and could (maybe) give > > > more > > > > exposure to Malta > > > > > and MLUG > > > > > > in that case, but would people > > > really use > > > > it? > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: Azureus... ye, forgot about > > > it, I > > > > don't use > > > > > torrents > > > > > > anymore :p > > > > > > > > > > > > PS Thanks Jean & Raphael :) > > > > > > > > > > > > -bix > > > > > > > > > > > > Raphael Borg Ellul Vincenti > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > I personally prefer fixing the > > > problems > > > > upstream > > > > > (sorry Gianluca ... > > > > > > > big word) and provide good > > > translations > > > > to the > > > > > distributions and the > > > > > > > desktop projects rather than > > > creating > > > > yet another > > > > > distribution. > > > > > > > Ultimately, the maltese don't > > > want any > > > > different > > > > > applications than > > > > > > > anybody else. If they really > > > (really > > > > really) want > > > > > they can change the > > > > > > > language to Maltese. But > > > ultimately its > > > > the same > > > > > software. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know someone who has the Eee > > > PC at > > > > work, and > > > > > Keith can probably back > > > > > > > me up with his impressions of > > > the > > > > device, since I > > > > > myself only saw it > > > > > > > in the hands of the salesman > > > at scan and > > > > it was > > > > > switched off - damn! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think the punchline is to > > > convince > > > > them to use > > > > > applications which > > > > > > > suck less :P Never do the > > > mistake of > > > > promising the > > > > > world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Raphael > > > > > > > > > > > > > > P.S Printer configuring and > > > scanner > > > > detection > > > > > have been top notch > > > > > > > on my linux machine (latest > > > openSUSE > > > > here) and I > > > > > am far from > > > > > > > grumbling. I plugged it in > > > into I don't > > > > know how > > > > > many devices and it > > > > > > > just worked. Comparing that to > > > the > > > > endless amount > > > > > of detecting > > > > > > > hardware and general bugginess > > > in XP, I > > > > am feeling > > > > > better off. Dunno > > > > > > > about Windows but I heard that > > > driver > > > > support > > > > > there is even worse. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 9:01 > > > PM, Jean > > > > Azzopardi > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Amarok is soon getting a > > > Windows > > > > version, since > > > > > they're using QT 4 now. > > > > > > > > I forgot VLC for a while, as > > > I don't > > > > use it so > > > > > much on Linux, although > > > > > > > > it was my best friend when I > > > was using > > > > Windows. > > > > > Same goes for > > > > > > > > Thunderbird. There's also > > > Azureus, the > > > > > Bittorrent client, for instance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another thing that will > > > definitely > > > > help is > > > > > Vista. Most people I know > > > > > > > > complain about it, and it's > > > insane > > > > memory > > > > > requirements, especially if > > > > > > > > their hardware is middle of > > > the line, > > > > like mine. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, how do you convince Joe > > > Public to > > > > use > > > > > OpenSource software instead > > > > > > > > of proprietary software? How > > > do you > > > > spread the > > > > > word? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > P.S. I nearly forgot, what > > > about the > > > > EEEPc of > > > > > Asus, it has Linux > > > > > > > > preloaded on it. Has anyone > > > seen one > > > > yet in > > > > > Malta? I know it's for sale, > > > > > > > > but I don't know anyone who > > > bought it. > > > > What I do > > > > > know is that most > > > > > > > > people regard it as being a > > > very good > > > > device in > > > > > general, with Linux only > > > > > > > > enhancing that image, even > > > among > > > > people who > > > > > aren't very hardware savvy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A possible solution might be > > > to see > > > > what the > > > > > Maltese market likes, > > > > > > > > modify Ubuntu and create a > > > distro of > > > > our own > > > > > (perhaps with a good > > > > > > > > Maltese translation? Who > > > knows? > > > > Getting the > > > > > Akkademja tal-Malti on our > > > > > > > > side might prove fruitful.) > > > Then, > > > > collude with a > > > > > local retailer to > > > > > > > > bundle it on a laptop, and > > > see how > > > > people react > > > > > to the product. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course, we'd have to > > > provide some > > > > means of > > > > > support..as I can already > > > > > > > > foresee problems from the > > > end users, > > > > especially > > > > > as they try and use > > > > > > > > their own software on it/or > > > plugin > > > > devices that > > > > > are not compatible (This > > > > > > > > might really hurt..what do > > > you tell > > > > someone > > > > > whose expensive printer > > > > > > > > doesn't work?) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry for the long > > > post... :D, and > > > > super long > > > > > P.S., and good luck with > > > > > > > > Linux, Gianluca! And the > > > exams :P > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 2008-05-24 at 19:03 > > > +0200, > > > > Gianluca > > > > > Magro wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, first time posting on > > > this > > > > mailing list, > > > > > but here goes :P > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Continuing to what Raphael > > > said, it > > > > is a bit > > > > > difficult to push linux > > > > > > > > > into people who only use > > > their > > > > computer for > > > > > fun and don't even know > > > > > > > > > what e-mail program > > > they're using. > > > > Therefore > > > > > pushing OSS first is key > > > > > > > > > to achieve this. Firefox > > > and OOo are > > > > of course > > > > > ahead of the rest and > > > > > > > > > have already starting > > > diffusing > > > > amongst the > > > > > 'normal users'... Firefox > > > > > > > > > sort of seems 'cooler' > > > than 'you > > > > know what', > > > > > and maybe that helped in > > > > > > > > > pushing Firefox to these > > > people. OOo > > > > was > > > > > pushed because it was > > > > > > > > > installed on people's PC > > > instead of > > > > office > > > > > (saves money no?). Amarok > > > > > > > > > unfortunately doesn't have > > > a Windows > > > > version > > > > > yet so these users cannot > > > > > > > > > really try it and see what > > > it's > > > > like. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moreover it will take some > > > time > > > > before a > > > > > stable build with features > > > > > > > > > that overcome WMP's, and > > > only at > > > > that point > > > > > can the software be pushed > > > > > > > > > forward. I would suggest > > > pushing > > > > ahead > > > > > software which has already been > > > > > > > > > in the Windows scene for > > > quite some > > > > time. What > > > > > about VLC? A video > > > > > > > > > player that saves the > > > hassle of > > > > downloading a > > > > > million and one codecs > > > > > > > > > for any film or tv series > > > you > > > > download, which > > > > > WMP can't play by > > > > > > > > > default. I've heard lots > > > of > > > > complaints from > > > > > people who can't play > > > > > > > > > their videos, and always > > > solved > > > > their problems > > > > > by redirecting them to > > > > > > > > > VLC. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gimp is a cool piece of > > > software too > > > > but > > > > > unfortunately not many people > > > > > > > > > are into graphic design, > > > and those > > > > who are > > > > > would already use other > > > > > > > > > software, so it's quite > > > useless. > > > > What about > > > > > Thunderbird? Great email > > > > > > > > > program providing > > > everything that > > > > Outlook > > > > > provides, of course with > > > > > > > > > customisable looks and > > > stuff which > > > > Outlook > > > > > doesn't have in addition to > > > > > > > > > those. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, what I think > > > would be a > > > > good thing to > > > > > promote, that most > > > > > > > > > people should start > > > learning to > > > > do... would be > > > > > sourceforge.net a site > > > > > > > > > for downloading any random > > > software > > > > you'd > > > > > need. People still search on > > > > > > > > > google to find software > > > that > > > > converts MKV to > > > > > AVI... they find some > > > > > > > > > program that needs you to > > > pay, and > > > > download > > > > > the program and the crack > > > > > > > > > from Ares. We can show > > > people that > > > > searching > > > > > for open source software > > > > > > > > > on sites such as > > > sourceforge they > > > > would find > > > > > programs that fit to any > > > > > > > > > of their needs are work > > > better than > > > > the ones > > > > > they spent ages to find, > > > > > > > > > download and crack. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry for the long post... > > > but this > > > > comes from > > > > > a user who's still > > > > > > > > > pretty new to Linux and > > > doesn't have > > > > much > > > > > background in it, I think > > > > > > > > > these are some points that > > > normal > > > > users MIGHT > > > > > be interested in > > > > > > > > > changing to :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - bix > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anton Xuereb wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Seems I missed out a lot > > > on the > > > > thread. Some > > > > > > > > > > people live at their > > > desks it > > > > seems. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I try to but don't > > > always > > > > manage :( > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, May 24, 2008 at > > > 5:11 PM, > > > > Raphael > > > > > Borg Ellul Vincenti > > > > > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Personally I see > > > it as a > > > > big sign of > > > > > disrespect. Although > > > > > > > > > > the tshirt > > > > > > > > > > banner wasn't as > > > bad. > > > > Seems I missed > > > > > out a lot on the > > > > > > > > > > thread. Some > > > > > > > > > > people live at > > > their desks > > > > it seems. > > > > > I would like to voice a > > > > > > > > > > couple of > > > > > > > > > > things on the > > > top of my > > > > head. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > First of all, I > > > see a big > > > > difficulty > > > > > in HR scene regarding > > > > > > > > > > Linux and > > > > > > > > > > or other system > > > programing > > > > > experience on the island. Based > > > > > > > > > > on the CVs > > > > > > > > > > that I see on my > > > desk, yes > > > > we find > > > > > it extremely difficult to > > > > > > > > > > find the > > > > > > > > > > right people to > > > join our > > > > company. > > > > > Yes we have products which > > > > > > > > > > are based > > > > > > > > > > on Linux let > > > alone core > > > > > infrastructure. So its crucial for > > > > > > > > > > us (2X) to > > > > > > > > > > find local > > > talent which we > > > > could > > > > > surely use. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Second of all, > > > Anton you > > > > forgot > > > > > world domination somewhere > > > > > > > > > > in your list. :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The workshop is > > > on the top > > > > of our > > > > > list. Well it was before > > > > > > > > > > we lost our > > > > > > > > > > mirror and the > > > world > > > > collapsed. > > > > > Angelo, we would really like > > > > > > > > > > to help > > > > > > > > > > out if there is > > > the need > > > > for OSS > > > > > awareness. Even from the > > > > > > > > > > academic > > > > > > > > > > point of view > > > since OSS > > > > reflects > > > > > most values in academia of > > > > > > > > > > publishing > > > > > > > > > > your work. I am > > > not > > > > talking about MS > > > > > vs Linux here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regarding other > > > arguments, > > > > yes > > > > > conversion starts from the > > > > > > > > > > applications > > > > > > > > > > which we use > > > daily on our > > > > linux > > > > > desktops and then to the > > > > > > > > > > actual linux > > > > > > > > > > distribution. I > > > know that > > > > after > > > > > Firefox and OOo, Amarok will > > > > > > > > > > be a big > > > > > > > > > > pusher in the > > > propaganda > > > > of OSS and > > > > > free (as in speech) > > > > > > > > > > online music > > > > > > > > > > stores. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, May 24, > > > 2008 at > > > > 2:08 PM, > > > > > Anton Xuereb > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > that egging > > > video was > > > > hilarious > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, May > > > 24, 2008 at > > > > 1:59 PM, > > > > > Jean Azzopardi > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> Yes..or some > > > hungarian > > > > students > > > > > will get creative with > > > > > > > > > > some dairy > > > > > > > > > > >> products. > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> On Sat, > > > 2008-05-24 at > > > > 13:48 > > > > > +0200, Anton Xuereb wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > Something > > > tells me > > > > that Ballmer > > > > > wouldn't accept and for > > > > > > > > > > the love of > > > > > > > > > > >> > God don't > > > expect me > > > > to stand > > > > > still while so many chairs > > > > > > > > > > would be > > > > > > > > > > >> > waiting to > > > be broken > > > > against > > > > > his back :( > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > ;) > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > M > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > On Sat, May > > > 24, 2008 > > > > at 1:45 > > > > > PM, Jean Azzopardi > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > I > > > vote for > > > > Stallman, > > > > > Torvalds, Shuttleworth and > > > > > > > > > > Ballmer as > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > guest > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > speakers. > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > On > > > Sat, > > > > 2008-05-24 at > > > > > 13:30 +0200, Sebastian > > > > > > > > > > Cachia wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Regards > > > > OOo, I used > > > > > to teach ECDL a few years > > > > > > > > > > back, and can > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > back up > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > what Anton > > > > said, that > > > > > a number of students > > > > > > > > > > had bought PCs > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > with OOo > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > pre-installed, and > > > > > either just stuck with it, > > > > > > > > > > or didn't even > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > know they > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > were using > > > > a > > > > > different product. Getting > > > > > > > > > > people to switch > > > to > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > Linux > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > would be > > > > great, but > > > > > as Jean said, a number of > > > > > > > > > > other open > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > source > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > applications exist, > > > > > and getting people to > > > > > > > > > > switch would be > > > a > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > great step > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > forward. > > > > Also once > > > > > people are used to using > > > > > > > > > > products like > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > Firefox, > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > OOo, Gimp, > > > > etc, the > > > > > prospect of using Linux > > > > > > > > > > is no longer so > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > bad. > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Afterall, > > > > for average > > > > > user, the concept of > > > > > > > > > > the OS is purely > > > > > > > > > > >> > at > > > an > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Application > > > > layer, > > > > > and has little to do with > > > > > > > > > > what kernel is > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > running > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > underneath. > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Last year > > > > at Uni, we > > > > > had an Introduction to > > > > > > > > > > Operating > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > Systems > > > > course > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > (or > > > > something like > > > > > that) by the CIS > > > > > > > > > > department. It > > > is > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > however > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > generally > > > > accepted to > > > > > have been quite a > > > > > > > > > > disapointment. > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > A > > > good > > > > place to start > > > > > might be some sort of > > > > > > > > > > Open Source > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > seminar, > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > organized > > > > by MLUG for > > > > > Uni ICT students. A > > > > > > > > > > list of guest > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > speakers > > > > could > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > be > > > > identified, both > > > > > from within MLUG, as well > > > > > > > > > > as the Uni > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > staff. Also, > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > it is > > > > generally > > > > > better to get people > > > > > > > > > > interested > > > through > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > seeing and > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > doing. Some > > > > sort of > > > > > workshop, in a linux lab > > > > > > > > > > perhaps, where > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > anybody > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > can bring > > > > along a > > > > > laptop and be led through a > > > > > > > > > > given topic by > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > somebody. > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Perhaps > > > > these could > > > > > all be joined together to > > > > > > > > > > form some sort > > > > > > > > > > >> > of > > > day > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > long event. > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > MLUG-list > > > > mailing > > > > > list > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > MLUG-list > > > > mailing list > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > >> > MLUG-list > > > mailing > > > > list > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > >> MLUG-list > > > mailing list > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > MLUG-list > > > mailing list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > MLUG-list > > > mailing list > > > > > > > > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > 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