This is also done as some companies have volume licensing agreements with Microsoft.
I like Effie's approach. I hope so too that he is still working there. If so, ask him if we can put something on our website with regards to details on how to get one? I am sure they would be glad with the advertisment. What do you guys think ? On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 9:31 AM, Ramon Casha <[email protected]>wrote: > In part due to the many varieties of Linux that exist, many manufacturers > are offering the option of either no OS, or else some version of DOS. > > > Ramon Casha > > > > On 3 April 2012 09:29, Effie Ciantar @ GMail <[email protected]>wrote: > >> I fully agree with Warren's more extensive list of caveats. >> >> Also, I would like to clarify a couple of things: >> >> The DELL laptop I bought did not come with a pre-installed Linux - it >> had no OS at all. >> >> As for using the live CD, I made it clear to the shop assistant that I >> was going to buy it on the spot, and for cash, if it worked, but would >> not buy it, nor would I buy anything else, if I did not test it or if it >> did not work. >> >> As for the WiFi, I asked the gentleman to log on to their own WiFi >> himself (while I looked away :) and to show me the Google Homepage, >> which he did. >> >> Following that, I immediately made my purchase in cash, so that I made >> it worth his while for that sale and for possible future similar ones. >> >> I hope he still works there! >> >> Effie >> >> >> On Tue, 2012-04-03 at 06:31 +0200, Daniel wrote: >> > thanks to your feedback. >> > >> > >> > > Good evening Fellow Penguins, >> > > >> > > I would like to start off that i agree with Effie on most points, >> > > how ever if your friend has certain peripherals to be connected they >> > > ought to be considered when making the switch. >> > > >> > > I admit i am not a 100% linux user now i am more of a 45% user of >> linux, >> > > Linux has come a long way and still has a long road ahead and this is >> what >> > > i take into consideration when recommending linux. >> > > >> > > 1. What level of computer knowledge do they have >> > > 2. Have they ever used Linux in the past or are able to adapt to >> "change" >> > > 3. what will s/he will be using i for >> > > 4. Are there any Specific requirements (this may be from software to >> hardware) >> > > 5. will it be connected to a network and able to be given >> support(Daniel you should know about MCA & MITA's intolerance to no control >> on OSS) >> > > 6. what is his estimated Budget and how long those he want it to >> serve him >> > > >> > > these are a few questions that can help in 1. purchasing a new >> system, 2. what OS/Software will be needed and 3. (most important) >> Availability of Support when something mysteriously F***s up >> > > >> > > Also if i am not mistaken Dell Stopped Selling the "ubuntu 10.10 or >> 10.04" laptop as only 20 units where sold locally (got my own contacts), >> and if he is looking for a cost reduced system it is best to by it with out >> an OS saves a minimum of €100 off the price. >> > > >> > > Also effie i am surprised that they even let you user "thier" wifi >> let alone run a liveCD... >> > > >> > > I also have some traders that import from mainland Europe and are >> able to provide me with discounted laptops with no OS should there be a >> need. >> > > >> > > Hope i have helped in some small way and not scared him away as most >> people aren't ready for Change let alone committing to it. >> > > >> > > Peace, >> > > Warren Camilleri >> > > >> > > p.s i found Mint LXDE quite handy for old systems, unity is favered >> by my little brother who i kinda forced into using... >> > > >> > > And i am still looking for a replacement to "Twieqi" in regards to >> gaming and Graphic design :S hence my usage of "Twieqi" as for general >> usage i still consider these distros Ubuntu, OpenSuse, and still need to >> test Mints Gnome as i am a somewhat simple user (mac like user). >> > > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > > From: "Effie Ciantar @ GMail" <[email protected]> >> > > > To: "Malta Linux User Group - general list" <[email protected] >> > >> > > > Sent: Monday, April 2, 2012 10:45:30 PM >> > > > Subject: Re: [LINUX.ORG.MT] Open source Operating system in a >> laptop >> > > > >> > > > Dear Daniel, >> > > > >> > > > Last October, I tried to buy a Linux based laptop and had >> > > > considerable >> > > > difficult in finding one without windows pre-installed. >> > > > >> > > > Eventually, I found that DELL (next door to SCAN in Marsa) had one >> > > > which >> > > > they offered with Windows or without an operating system. >> > > > >> > > > So I took along with me a live Ubuntu distribution so that I could >> > > > check >> > > > that all the hardware was recognised and after I convinced them that >> > > > the >> > > > hard disk would not be touched, they allowed me to boot from it and >> > > > it >> > > > was OK (they even allowed me to log on into their WiFi to check >> it!). >> > > > >> > > > So I bought this DELL laptop and have had no problems with it. My >> > > > only >> > > > grudge is that it does not have F keys - instead, the function of F >> > > > keys >> > > > is obtained by pressing the function key [Fn] along with the top-row >> > > > numeric keys. Of course, certain short-cuts (like Alt-F4 to close a >> > > > window) with is very quick and easy with a single hand, becomes >> > > > fiddly >> > > > as you have to use both hands to press the function key and Alt 4. >> > > > Nevertheless, I have saved a nice sum for not buying windows and it >> > > > is >> > > > serving me well. >> > > > >> > > > But before rushing into buying such a laptop, it is worth >> considering >> > > > what printer he has. As you know, not all printers support Linux >> > > > equally well. >> > > > >> > > > Also worth considering is what distro to go for - I would suggest >> > > > something easy and attractive like Kubuntu, Mint or Knoppix. >> > > > >> > > > But most important of all, if he has never used Linux before, >> perhaps >> > > > he >> > > > ought to consider a Windows lap-top and dual booting it into Linux. >> > > > That way, he will always have a fall-back position if he finds a >> > > > problem >> > > > until he gets accustomed to Linux. >> > > > >> > > > That's my penny's worth :) >> > > > >> > > > Effie. >> > > > >> > > > On Mon, 2012-04-02 at 19:41 +0200, Daniel wrote: >> > > > > This evening I was talking to a teacher who is a friend of mine >> and >> > > > > who is interested in buying a new laptop for himself. I told him >> > > > > that >> > > > > he should consider buying an open source one and he seems highly >> > > > > interested even because of the values behind the OS. Would you >> have >> > > > > any suggestions on what best to look for and if possible cheaper >> > > > > prices as well? >> > > > > Daniel >> > > > > >> > > > > -- >> > > > > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > > MLUG-list mailing list >> > > > > [email protected] >> > > > > http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list >> > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > MLUG-list mailing list >> > > > [email protected] >> > > > http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list >> > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > MLUG-list mailing list >> > > [email protected] >> > > http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list >> > > >> > > >> > >> > -- >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > MLUG-list mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list >> >> _______________________________________________ >> MLUG-list mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list >> > > > _______________________________________________ > MLUG-list mailing list > [email protected] > http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list > >
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