Hi Daniel, I do not know what the final conclusion was for your friend, but if he is still interested in a Linux Laptop, in the Bargain Magazine we received today, e-world are advertising the HP Probook 4720s for 599 Euro with Linux Enterprise. They are also offering the same computer with an "Upgrade to Windows" for an extra 50 Euro. This is excellent, except that I would describe the second option as a downgrade to Windows :P
Cheers Effie On Tue, 2012-04-03 at 12:36 +0200, Anton Xuereb wrote: > my t61 was a dream to work with, currently running a temp t500 until i > get my new t520 and they all work perfectly with linux > > > > > thinkpad ftw > > On 3 April 2012 12:19, Warren Camilleri <[email protected]> wrote: > I use an lenovo ideapad s 10-2 but wifi is a bitch to setup on > some distros due to the broadcom bluetooth/wifi hybrid and i > have a spare mini pci-3 dlot available on this mighty netbook > (yeah its a small 10incher that pack a punch) > > Best regards, > Warren Camilleri > Founding Father of OSSMalta > > --- > Sent from my android > > On Apr 3, 2012 10:01 AM, "Keith Vassallo" <[email protected]> > wrote: > Guys how about a Thinkpad laptop? They're not the > cheapest but they do have great Linux support. > > > I've also tried Linux on one of the cheaper Lenovo > laptops and it works great (standby and everything). > > > K > > On 03 Apr 2012, at 09:53, Raphael Borg Ellul Vincenti > wrote: > > > This is also done as some companies have volume > > licensing agreements with Microsoft. > > > > > > I like Effie's approach. I hope so too that he is > > still working there. If so, ask him if we can put > > something on our website with regards to details on > > how to get one? I am sure they would be glad with > > the advertisment. What do you guys think ? > > > > On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 9:31 AM, Ramon Casha > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > In part due to the many varieties of Linux > > that exist, many manufacturers are offering > > the option of either no OS, or else some > > version of DOS. > > > > > > Ramon Casha > > > > > > > > On 3 April 2012 09:29, Effie Ciantar @ GMail > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > I fully agree with Warren's more > > extensive list of caveats. > > > > Also, I would like to clarify a > > couple of things: > > > > The DELL laptop I bought did not > > come with a pre-installed Linux - it > > had no OS at all. > > > > As for using the live CD, I made it > > clear to the shop assistant that I > > was going to buy it on the spot, and > > for cash, if it worked, but would > > not buy it, nor would I buy anything > > else, if I did not test it or if it > > did not work. > > > > As for the WiFi, I asked the > > gentleman to log on to their own > > WiFi > > himself (while I looked away :) and > > to show me the Google Homepage, > > which he did. > > > > Following that, I immediately made > > my purchase in cash, so that I made > > it worth his while for that sale and > > for possible future similar ones. > > > > I hope he still works there! > > > > Effie > > > > > > On Tue, 2012-04-03 at 06:31 +0200, > > Daniel wrote: > > > thanks to your feedback. > > > > > > > > > > Good evening Fellow Penguins, > > > > > > > > I would like to start off that i > > agree with Effie on most points, > > > > how ever if your friend has > > certain peripherals to be connected > > they > > > > ought to be considered when > > making the switch. > > > > > > > > I admit i am not a 100% linux > > user now i am more of a 45% user of > > linux, > > > > Linux has come a long way and > > still has a long road ahead and this > > is what > > > > i take into consideration when > > recommending linux. > > > > > > > > 1. What level of computer > > knowledge do they have > > > > 2. Have they ever used Linux in > > the past or are able to adapt to > > "change" > > > > 3. what will s/he will be using > > i for > > > > 4. Are there any Specific > > requirements (this may be from > > software to hardware) > > > > 5. will it be connected to a > > network and able to be given > > support(Daniel you should know about > > MCA & MITA's intolerance to no > > control on OSS) > > > > 6. what is his estimated Budget > > and how long those he want it to > > serve him > > > > > > > > these are a few questions that > > can help in 1. purchasing a new > > system, 2. what OS/Software will be > > needed and 3. (most important) > > Availability of Support when > > something mysteriously F***s up > > > > > > > > Also if i am not mistaken Dell > > Stopped Selling the "ubuntu 10.10 or > > 10.04" laptop as only 20 units where > > sold locally (got my own contacts), > > and if he is looking for a cost > > reduced system it is best to by it > > with out an OS saves a minimum of > > €100 off the price. > > > > > > > > Also effie i am surprised that > > they even let you user "thier" wifi > > let alone run a liveCD... > > > > > > > > I also have some traders that > > import from mainland Europe and are > > able to provide me with discounted > > laptops with no OS should there be a > > need. > > > > > > > > Hope i have helped in some small > > way and not scared him away as most > > people aren't ready for Change let > > alone committing to it. > > > > > > > > Peace, > > > > Warren Camilleri > > > > > > > > p.s i found Mint LXDE quite > > handy for old systems, unity is > > favered by my little brother who i > > kinda forced into using... > > > > > > > > And i am still looking for a > > replacement to "Twieqi" in regards > > to gaming and Graphic design :S > > hence my usage of "Twieqi" as for > > general usage i still consider these > > distros Ubuntu, OpenSuse, and still > > need to test Mints Gnome as i am a > > somewhat simple user (mac like > > user). > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Effie Ciantar @ GMail" > > <[email protected]> > > > > > To: "Malta Linux User Group - > > general list" > > <[email protected]> > > > > > Sent: Monday, April 2, 2012 > > 10:45:30 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: [LINUX.ORG.MT] > > Open source Operating system in a > > laptop > > > > > > > > > > Dear Daniel, > > > > > > > > > > Last October, I tried to buy a > > Linux based laptop and had > > > > > considerable > > > > > difficult in finding one > > without windows pre-installed. > > > > > > > > > > Eventually, I found that DELL > > (next door to SCAN in Marsa) had one > > > > > which > > > > > they offered with Windows or > > without an operating system. > > > > > > > > > > So I took along with me a live > > Ubuntu distribution so that I could > > > > > check > > > > > that all the hardware was > > recognised and after I convinced > > them that > > > > > the > > > > > hard disk would not be > > touched, they allowed me to boot > > from it and > > > > > it > > > > > was OK (they even allowed me > > to log on into their WiFi to check > > it!). > > > > > > > > > > So I bought this DELL laptop > > and have had no problems with it. > > My > > > > > only > > > > > grudge is that it does not > > have F keys - instead, the function > > of F > > > > > keys > > > > > is obtained by pressing the > > function key [Fn] along with the > > top-row > > > > > numeric keys. Of course, > > certain short-cuts (like Alt-F4 to > > close a > > > > > window) with is very quick and > > easy with a single hand, becomes > > > > > fiddly > > > > > as you have to use both hands > > to press the function key and Alt 4. > > > > > Nevertheless, I have saved a > > nice sum for not buying windows and > > it > > > > > is > > > > > serving me well. > > > > > > > > > > But before rushing into buying > > such a laptop, it is worth > > considering > > > > > what printer he has. As you > > know, not all printers support Linux > > > > > equally well. > > > > > > > > > > Also worth considering is what > > distro to go for - I would suggest > > > > > something easy and attractive > > like Kubuntu, Mint or Knoppix. > > > > > > > > > > But most important of all, if > > he has never used Linux before, > > perhaps > > > > > he > > > > > ought to consider a Windows > > lap-top and dual booting it into > > Linux. > > > > > That way, he will always have > > a fall-back position if he finds a > > > > > problem > > > > > until he gets accustomed to > > Linux. > > > > > > > > > > That's my penny's worth :) > > > > > > > > > > Effie. > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2012-04-02 at 19:41 > > +0200, Daniel wrote: > > > > > > This evening I was talking > > to a teacher who is a friend of mine > > and > > > > > > who is interested in buying > > a new laptop for himself. I told him > > > > > > that > > > > > > he should consider buying an > > open source one and he seems highly > > > > > > interested even because of > > the values behind the OS. Would you > > have > > > > > > any suggestions on what best > > to look for and if possible cheaper > > > > > > prices as well? > > > > > > Daniel > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > MLUG-list mailing list > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > MLUG-list mailing list > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > MLUG-list mailing list > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > MLUG-list mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > > > > http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > MLUG-list mailing list > > [email protected] > > > http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > MLUG-list mailing list > > [email protected] > > > http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > MLUG-list mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > MLUG-list mailing list > [email protected] > http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list > > > _______________________________________________ > MLUG-list mailing list > [email protected] > http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > MLUG-list mailing list > [email protected] > http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list _______________________________________________ MLUG-list mailing list [email protected] http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list
