bull, I ssh as root into my box all the time... oh wait, that's my honeypot :P -nick
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 10:39 AM, patricia campbell < [email protected]> wrote: > Well put, I cringe & am glad it's not my system every time I see a post > where someone says "log in as root " . We should have 1st rule of linux > club DO NOT LOGIN AS ROOT :) > > Tricia > > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 10:41 PM, Pascal Charest <[email protected] > > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> As a sysadmin, I can't say that enough: Login as root is the worst plague >> that can exist. As a workstation user, the problem might be way less >> important, but still, there is a very good reason why the sudo program was >> pushed forward in GNU/Linux distro like Ubuntu. >> >> If you want to mark-drag-drop you can actually use sudo to launch your >> filebrowser (such as sudo nautilus) and it will be acting as root while >> using your xorg/xauth credential (so the window appear on your desktop). >> There is no need to launch a whole environment, from which widgets and >> applications are launched, as the root user, >> >> One of the main reason why sudo is important is because you should NOT >> TRUST all programs! The principe of the 'multitude of eyesball' has been >> proven wrong in the last few months more than I care to remember. This is >> the same reason why you should './configure && make' under a user and 'sudo >> make install' ... >> >> I'm not saying that 'sudo su - ' should be illegal, it is very useful if >> you intend to run lots of command as root. At least, it leaves a trace of >> which user became root. (This might be a bit less important for your >> computer, if your the only user, but...). >> >> Other than wanting to look like Microsoft Windows (old versions), I can't >> think of the reason why Ubuntu would have change the behaviors to refuse >> 'root' login. I clearly remebered times where your X would simply forbidd >> you to log as root (or give you a very very big warning message). Think >> about it, even in the world of Windows, they are moving away from those >> 'login as root' for normal operation (and ask a password to be promoted to >> administrator privileges for a specific operations). >> >> Using administrator (or root) is asking for for virus (wondered why >> GNU/Linux has so little virus? simply because runing as user does limit a >> lot the scope of an infectation), for trojan horse and for random crash. You >> must remember that root does have access to a lot of system call that are >> not available to normal user (such as using those last few % of disk >> space)... >> >> Like I said, maybe I've been managing (too much) my workstation as >> servers, but I think you should be very aware of the implication of login as >> root on X. >> >> P. >> >> -- >> Pascal Charest, skype: pascal.charest >> Free software consultant @ Laboratoire Phoenix >> http://www.labsphoenix.com >> >> >> On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 7:23 AM, Leslie Satenstein <[email protected] >> > wrote: >> >>> I find that using the default SUDO is worse then using a root logon. >>> >>> Fortunately, both UBUNTU and Fedora allow you to log in to gnome as >>> root. >>> >>> When I use root, it is mainly with Gnome for "mark-drag-drop/delete" of >>> files, especially for easy cleanup of a subset of files in a directory or >>> dragging files to the mounted backup drive. >>> >>> Sudo apt-get is one thing, File manipulation is another. I normally >>> use synaptic / yumex rather then switching to the root logon. >>> >>> >>> >>> *------------------ >>> >>> * >>> >>> Regards >>> * >>> Mr. Leslie >>> * >>> *Leslie Satenstein >>> * >>> >>> mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]> >>> mailto [email protected] >>> www.itbms.biz >>> >>> >>> --- On *Thu, 11/19/09, concepts <[email protected]>* wrote: >>> >>> >>> From: concepts <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [MLUG] setuidv ARRRRRRRRRGGGGgggg! >>> To: "Montreal Linux Users Group" <[email protected]> >>> Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 11:04 PM >>> >>> >>> > There is no root password on Ubuntu. You need to reboot in single user >>> > mode if you wish to be root. The steps are here: >>> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode >>> > >>> > >>> > Basicly, it's: >>> > 1)Reboot >>> > 2)Press ESC to see grub menu if it's hidden >>> > 3)Select (Recovery) >>> > 4)See r...@machine:~# prompt... you are now root with no X and limited >>> > services >>> > 5)Do what you have to do... >>> > 6)Reboot >>> > >>> > There is also a LiveCD recovery method: >>> > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery >>> > >>> > I strongly advise again setting a root password in Ubuntu, unless you >>> > know what you are doing. But you can if you want to because it won't >>> > break anything. >>> > >>> > David Montminy >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > mlug mailing list >>> > [email protected] <http://mc/[email protected]> >>> > >>> https://listes.koumbit.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-listserv.mlug.ca >>> > >>> I was being ironic. I know there is no root password nor do I have the >>> intention of having one. >>> >>> However, starting as root AND with the LiveCD has changed nothing at all. >>> ALso >>> Synaptic starts and then disappears... >>> >>> Oh woe is me. :-( >>> >>> André. >>> >>> -- >>> Omnia quaecumque vultis ut faciant vobis homines et vos facite illis >>> (Mt.: 7,12) >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> mlug mailing list >>> [email protected] <http://mc/[email protected]> >>> https://listes.koumbit.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-listserv.mlug.ca >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> mlug mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://listes.koumbit.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-listserv.mlug.ca >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> mlug mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://listes.koumbit.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-listserv.mlug.ca >> >> > > > -- > ___..____._..___._..___. > ...|...|___/..|..|......|..|___| > ...|...|.....\..|..|___.|..|.....| > > "I am always doing what I cannot do yet in order to learn how to do it." > -Vincent Van Gogh > > _______________________________________________ > mlug mailing list > [email protected] > https://listes.koumbit.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-listserv.mlug.ca > >
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