Yeah, I used to always purge network-manager and use interfaces/wpa_supplicant, but this time I tried it out just for fun... alas it let me down (always reconnecting for some odd reason), and I was sad to see that my network monitor applet was gone. That isn't a deal breaker for me, just part of the problem. It's taking longer and longer to get rid of the cruft (the search app, I forget its new name, etc). I feel like I'm getting pushed out of understanding what's going on in the base system, and that when I do learn how something works it'll be different in the next release. I can't say anything too bad about ubuntu, because they really did a wonder bringing linux to the average user. I remember ubuntu 5.04 I think it was, and man was that a positive experience. I've been reading a bit about arch linux, and this page really speaks to me: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/The_Arch_Way
Maybe it has to do with my roots in FreeBSD, but those are some core qualities I see getting pushed aside in favour of 'usability'. I have a flux/fbsd setup for my media box, and it takes me about 2 minutes to explain to people how tab completion, directory listings, and playing movies etc works. Sure it's not the most advanced shell interaction, but quite quickly they are able to navigate the directory structure and execute commands. Is gui the way to go? It is more comfortable for many, maybe most users. And it certainly isn't something I want to argue about, because it's clear that there are a lot of benefits to a good gui. It's just starting to become more of a hindrance to me (in Ubuntu/gnome). I have to wonder if people spent more time at the shell if they wouldn't have a more fulfilling user experience... now trying to convince others of that is a different matter. On Mon, 1 Feb 2010, Jeremy wrote: > I have gentoo and debian testing installed on same drive as ubuntu and > switch liberally among them. I have felt some pangs with what ubuntu is > doing, but in general they were stuff I needed to learn the new way of > working with (cough grub2)... When I get really annoyed with Ubuntu I go > into gentoo and suddenly everything that bothered me about Ubuntu seems > minor haha. Aversion therapy of a sort. > > I am sure you know you can purge networkmanager and just use > /etc/network/interfaces and/or wpa_supplicant if you want (sudo aptitude > purge network-manager network-manager-gnome; AFAIK this should do it). > But trying new distros is fun, so I encourage you to go for it, and > report back. > > As Anarcat said, Arch is probably a good place to look, although it was > not my fave last time I tried it. > > Jeremy _______________________________________________ mlug mailing list [email protected] https://listes.koumbit.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-listserv.mlug.ca
