In Fedora 16  mount locations were the same as every other distribution  /media

With Fedora 17, as you pointed out, it is /run/media/username/

I guess the change has to do with multi-user secured access.  If you were able 
to mount a device, then it is yours, and if someone signs on with another logon 
id,  it is not theirs to use. 

I did notice that if a device was present at boot time, that it appeared as 
/media/device.

Perhaps the automount feature should ask if the mount is private or shared.

Shared mount happen with F17 once so I must confirm that.it is the rule.  

As far as Debian and UBUNTU,  I like the former best because of Gnome2.  

Ubuntu's favorite bar is fixed and  takes up too much real-estate on the left 
with the favorites bar.  That favorites bar reduces the amount of space I have 
for the browser on my netbook.

Fedora's Favorites bar moves out of the way, yielding more screen area.


Fedora believes only in Free software, and to avoid lawsuites (Fedora is in 
USA), they do not mention distributions wheren on open source stuff can be 
obtained.  However you will quickly discover rpmfusion, and livna  from where 
you can download vlc and other software.

There is also an interesting program,  yumex to list all files that are for 32 
or 64 bit Fedora versions.

Fedora has many updates, and even with all the updates,   it is a very solid 
high quality distribution.

If I was to choose my second distribution, I would be hard pressed to decide. I 
like the others I mentioned as well.  









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--- On Sat, 8/4/12, Brian van den Broek <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Brian van den Broek <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [MLUG] gotchas for refugee from ubuntu/debian-land new to Fedora?
To: "Montreal Linux Users Group" <[email protected]>
Date: Saturday, August 4, 2012, 1:10 AM

On 2 August 2012 21:34, Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 6:17 PM, Brian van den Broek
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> This morning, I've installed Fedora 17 (LXDE edition) on my desktop.
>> I've run only debian derivatives (mostly ubuntu and crunchbang). I've
>> been running linux exclusively since 2005.
>>
>> The ways of those who talk of yum and rpms are strange and unfamiliar
>> to me. As I suspect other MLUG'ers have gone from ubuntu (or at least
>> debian-based) to Fedora, I am hopeful that some wisdom can be shared
>> to help me avoid the painful bits of the process. Anything I can watch
>> out for that folks with my transition tend to stumble over?


Hi all,

Thanks, Hendrik and Mathieu.

In response to Hendrik (who suggested Debian): I thought about Debian.
I'd run stable on my desktop for a while (*too* stable ;-) and the
current freeze didn't seem the time to adopt testing. Plus, I was
wanting to try something new. If the Debian based staggered rolling
Mint had got the regular updates it had been supposed to, I might have
tried it. If Debian CUT gets off the ground, I'll likely give that a
go.

In response to Mathieu:

> Granted my experience with RPM distros is a little far behind, but be
> mindful of how you install packages.
>
> Make sure you use yum, and avoid installing rpms directly as much as possible.

I avoided direct installs and even PPA's when running ubuntu and other
debian derivatives. Or, eventually I did. I was running out of toes to
shoot off, but learned my lesson in time that my limp is barely
noticeable :-)

So far, yum, I like a great deal. It somehow "fits" my mind better
than apt-get. (I never really used aptitude.) The GUI
wrapper/front-end that ships with Fedora 17 LXDE is mighty awful,
though. I did like synaptic for discoverability, but the current GUI
is too painful for that. Finding out about alternatives is on the
list.

<snip>

> If I may ask though, why switch distro "bases" entirely? There's a big
> world between Ubuntu and Debian already; and in all cases (rpm or deb
> distros) you're able to install your own custom environment as you see
> fit. I know of people who use ratpoison (or awesomewm) as a tiling
> desktop manager rather than anything else on Ubuntu, with great
> results. If you're familiar with a particular type of distro, I'd
> encourage you to stick with it when possible rather than "waste" time
> relearning things. In all cases you'll be customizing your environment
> anyway, so might as well not change the underlying foundation if
> you're already okay with it, and just need to change the graphical UI.

`"waste"' time learning? I don't understand! ;-)

In seriousness, I've lived in Debian and derivative land since I
started with ubuntu and thought if I was changing I might as well see
how things look outside my comfort zone. I wanted to be positioned so
that in 6 months or so, I can make an informed choice between deb and
rpm based distros. (And, it seemed easier than switching teams to see
what this vi thing I hear so much about is like.) With a few weeks to
go until the teaching term starts, reinstalling anyway to take
advantage of a new SSD, being unhappy with what I'm running, Debian
testing being frozen, etc., etc., it seemed like I'd wait a long time
to find a better time to make a radical change.

So far, so good, but I'd love to know what was wrong with automounting
to /media/drivelabel that automounting to
/run/media/mountingusername/drivelabel fixes.

Thanks again,

Brian vdB
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