On 4 August 2012 09:32, Hendrik Boom <[email protected]> wrote: > On Sat, Aug 04, 2012 at 01:10:47AM -0400, Brian van den Broek wrote: >> On 2 August 2012 21:34, Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre <[email protected]> wrote: >> > On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 6:17 PM, Brian van den Broek >> > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> >> >> This morning, I've installed Fedora 17 (LXDE edition) on my desktop. >> >> I've run only debian derivatives (mostly ubuntu and crunchbang). I've >> >> been running linux exclusively since 2005. >> >> >> >> The ways of those who talk of yum and rpms are strange and unfamiliar >> >> to me. As I suspect other MLUG'ers have gone from ubuntu (or at least >> >> debian-based) to Fedora, I am hopeful that some wisdom can be shared >> >> to help me avoid the painful bits of the process. Anything I can watch >> >> out for that folks with my transition tend to stumble over? >> >> >> Hi all, >> >> Thanks, Hendrik and Mathieu. >> >> In response to Hendrik (who suggested Debian): I thought about Debian. >> I'd run stable on my desktop for a while (*too* stable ;-) and the >> current freeze didn't seem the time to adopt testing. > > I don't understand why the freeze is relevant. It makes testing a > little more stable for a few months while they get ready for the new > major release. And if you call it 'testing' instead of 'wheezy' in your > source.list it'll revert to being up-to-date as soon as the next stable > is out.
Hi Hendrik, I suppose it isn't too big a deal. But, as I'd found stable too much so, testing reverting to stable-like stasis for an undetermined time made it unappealing. Not really a rational but an emotional response, I guess :-) <snip> > I've been wondering about vi, too. But when I have something that needs > editing, it's so much easier to use emacs than learn a new tool. Indeed. Also, I have most of my brain in emacs org-mode, so I'd be crippled without emacs! <snip> >> So far, so good, but I'd love to know what was wrong with automounting >> to /media/drivelabel that automounting to >> /run/media/mountingusername/drivelabel fixes. > > This may be relevant on a multiuser system. > Don't know what the /run is for, though. /run used to be used with > daemontools, a competing way to keep services running, as I recall. I wondered if the multi-user issue was the motivation. If I cared, I'd just chmod and chown the /media/label, but of course that won't help users without sudo-powers. Reading around since I posted, I see that was indeed the motivation for the media/username part of the mount path: <http://cgit.freedesktop.org/udisks/commit/?id=aa02e5fc53efdeaf66047d2ad437ed543178965b> The /run top-level dir was introduced to clean up misuse of /dev for runtime data. /run seems to have hit fedora first (F15), but it also might be coming soon to a debian near you: <http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2011-March/150031.html> (The debian and ubuntu claims in that link are predictions more than a year old and from a RH dev; I've not bothered to check if it came to pass.) Best, Brian vdB _______________________________________________ mlug mailing list [email protected] https://listes.koumbit.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-listserv.mlug.ca
