On Aug 5, 2012, at 19:32 , Brian van den Broek wrote:

> On 5 August 2012 05:22, Leon Waldman <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> No one using Arch?
>> 
>> When I used, I find it delightful.
> 
> 
> Hi Leon,
> The archers I know seem even more zealous than do the gentoovians.
> I've though about it from time to time. What dissuades me every time
> is that the install process seems a frightful amount of work and the
> apparent lack of package signing on the repos concerns me.
> 
> On the former, while I did say upthread I switched in part to learn,
> there is a limit to the time and effort I can put in. What was your
> experience with the install? On the later, there was much discussion
> 1.5 years back; more heat than light. I don't know what's true, but
> there is enough uncertainty to disconcert me.
> 
> Whatever is true about the two issues that I identified, arch's wiki
> is very useful and not just to archers.
> 

Hi there :)


Hmmm... The problem is, I used Arch something like... 4 or 5 years ago.

One of the reasons that I switched to it was exactly because the install 
process 
and the amazing level of un-bloat that it can achieve.

The fact that the installer install a really minimal system and puts you on a 
box without 
even a GUI allows you to think about every thing that you need and let you 
install 
it. And just it! :)

Pacman it self is an amazing package manager that plain works and I never found 
difficulties to set my system to be the way that i liked. Maybe it took some 
more hours 
then on a GUI distro, but the less space, less services running, less useless 
apps 
installed made it worth.

Another thing that catch me with this distro is... the rolling release model.

I don't know how Ubuntu/OpenSUSE/etc... are these days on the desktop space 
but... last
time I tried to upgrade  from one major version to another It worked but the 
results always looked dirty to me. (So, when I'm using this distros (even on 
servers), 
my upgrade policy is usually to format, reinstall with the new major version, 
and pull 
configs from my CM system).

On Arch no, you are always up to date and on the only major version! :)

Regarding the packages signing... It's something to be concerned. (and 
honestly... I don't 
have any clue on the current state of affairs on it).


Cheers

--
Leon Waldman
Senior Linux/UNIX SysAdmin & Consultant.
Back-End & Infrastructure Architect.

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