You may want to try
http://www.sysresccd.org/SystemRescueCd_Homepage
See System Tools GRUB
"Multi Bootloaders Install or restore bootloader. If Microsoft Windows
removed a multi bootloader, run it from this CD, and reinstall it."

It is probably just a windows install  overwriting grub (as usual.)

On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 11:11 AM, Jer <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 15-07-01 10:49 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>
>> Yes, I will try a live CD. But I have tried the commands with a rescue
>> disc - is it ctl E or F or D - I have tried those, but the MBR seems to
>> have disappeared (this was described as Win upgrades playing "nasty" on
>> one of the sites), so I can't force a boot from the DVD/CDRom.
>>
>> Stranger still is that the Win7 control panel allows you to boot to
>> Ubuntu (it sees the partition(s)), but my particular install of an older
>> Ubuntu (Natty Narwhale or similar) doesn't have a terminal window that I
>> can find. And, during the boot, no command line is
>> available.
>>
>> The Acer is a 64 bit cpu, if that helps. Is it possible that the
>> automatic Win upgrades forced a new-fangled UEFI boot sector that
>> this older Ubuntu will never recognize?
>>
>>  Once you boot into ubuntu press CTRL-ALT-F1 this should bring you to a
> console.
>
> I think all you need to do is repair/reinstall grub. Windows overwrote it
> when it installed. This can be done from inside ubuntu or from a livecd.
> The link I gave shows how to use the tool in either case.
>
> Jer
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