Having dealt with Bell during 35 years, I have this to say: Anything else is my choice! The way their management run the show start from the assumption that the customer does not know!
My employer, another telecommunication provider, was one of the biggest Bell customers, 30 millions $CA/ month, and we were still served plain lies from time to time! Looks ;like Bell management has found ways to handcuff and gag their technical staff. So whatever the offer, Bell is a big "NO GO" for me! I've had enough! ... And there are some who still think a monopoly is good! YLL Le lundi 03 octobre 2016 à 18:01 -0400, mlug-requ...@listserv.mlug.ca a écrit : > Send mlug mailing list submissions to > mlug@listserv.mlug.ca > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > https://listes.koumbit.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-listserv.mlug.ca > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > mlug-requ...@listserv.mlug.ca > > You can reach the person managing the list at > mlug-ow...@listserv.mlug.ca > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of mlug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Internet provider. (Nick Sklavenitis) > 2. Re: Internet provider. (Denis-André Desjardins.) > 3. Re: Internet provider. (Hendrik Boom) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2016 16:36:13 -0400 > From: Nick Sklavenitis <sk...@teksavvy.com> > To: Montreal Linux Users Group <mlug@listserv.mlug.ca> > Subject: Re: [MLUG] Internet provider. > Message-ID: <63008279-1acc-4ad8-b642-83eaa4c13...@teksavvy.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > Not for anything but the days of dial up and modems are done too be honest > getting on the internet 10 years ago with linux was not obvious i blame > win-modems. > > So fast fwd 10 years in theory all bell videotron etc… do is offer a > router/modem in your home. The fact that they would refuse you any os that > supports dhcp is ridiculous. My best advice is pick a reputable and > reasonable $ provider and enjoy. > > As many have mentioned if there are known issues it will rarely be on your OS > side now days. You will most likely never be talking to support and if you > do, your knowledge over level 1, might be light years ahead. > > > > > On Oct 2, 2016, at 3:46 PM, Leslie S Satenstein <lsatenst...@yahoo.com> > > wrote: > > > > And I use Tumbleweed and Bell too, with Gnome and Gnome tweaks! > > > > Regards > > > > Leslie > > Mr. Leslie Satenstein > > Montréal Québec, Canada > > > > > > > > From: Sean Rickerd <srick...@suse.com> > > To: mlug@listserv.mlug.ca > > Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 9:34 AM > > Subject: Re: [MLUG] Internet provider. > > > > I use Bell and am very happy. > > Sean Rickerd > > Ingénieur Commercial/Sales Engineer > > srick...@suse.com <mailto:srick...@suse.com> > > 514.834.5778 > > ------------------------------------------------ > > <suse_logo_color-smaller.png> > > On 28/09/16 09:28 AM, Denis-André Desjardins. wrote: > > > > I'll very soon have to find a new internet provider. Any suggestions? > > > > Denis-André Desjardins. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > mlug mailing list > > mlug@listserv.mlug.ca <mailto:mlug@listserv.mlug.ca> > > https://listes.koumbit.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-listserv.mlug.ca > > <https://listes.koumbit.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-listserv.mlug.ca> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > mlug mailing list > > mlug@listserv.mlug.ca <mailto:mlug@listserv.mlug.ca> > > https://listes.koumbit.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-listserv.mlug.ca > > <https://listes.koumbit.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-listserv.mlug.ca> > > > > > > <suse_logo_color-smaller.png>_______________________________________________ > > mlug mailing list > > mlug@listserv.mlug.ca > > https://listes.koumbit.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-listserv.mlug.ca > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > </pipermail/mlug-listserv.mlug.ca/attachments/20161003/488bed33/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2016 17:22:56 -0400 > From: Denis-André Desjardins. <nospamormores...@gmail.com> > To: Montreal Linux Users Group <mlug@listserv.mlug.ca> > Subject: Re: [MLUG] Internet provider. > Message-ID: > <cacqq5qb1wums3cztcrwceztfhrk0hgk8ghnkccw3u8fz80f...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Thank you all for your time and input. I decided to go with Bell because of > their special. One thought though, if Bell supports Android, why wouldn't > they support Linux? > > On 3 October 2016 at 16:36, Nick Sklavenitis <sk...@teksavvy.com> wrote: > > > > > Not for anything but the days of dial up and modems are done too be honest > > getting on the internet 10 years ago with linux was not obvious i blame > > win-modems. > > > > So fast fwd 10 years in theory all bell videotron etc… do is offer a > > router/modem in your home. The fact that they would refuse you any os that > > supports dhcp is ridiculous. My best advice is pick a reputable and > > reasonable $ provider and enjoy. > > > > As many have mentioned if there are known issues it will rarely be on your > > OS side now days. You will most likely never be talking to support and if > > you do, your knowledge over level 1, might be light years ahead. > > > > > > > > On Oct 2, 2016, at 3:46 PM, Leslie S Satenstein <lsatenst...@yahoo.com> > > wrote: > > > > And I use Tumbleweed and Bell too, with Gnome and Gnome tweaks! > > > > Regards > > > > > > * Leslie* > > *Mr. Leslie Satenstein* > > *Montréal Québec, Canada* > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Sean Rickerd <srick...@suse.com> > > *To:* mlug@listserv.mlug.ca > > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 28, 2016 9:34 AM > > *Subject:* Re: [MLUG] Internet provider. > > > > I use Bell and am very happy. > > Sean Rickerd > > Ingénieur Commercial/Sales Engineer > > srick...@suse.com > > 514.834.5778 > > ------------------------------------------------ > > <suse_logo_color-smaller.png> > > On 28/09/16 09:28 AM, Denis-André Desjardins. wrote: > > > > I'll very soon have to find a new internet provider. Any suggestions? > > > > Denis-André Desjardins. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > mlug mailing > > listm...@listserv.mlug.cahttps://listes.koumbit.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-listserv.mlug.ca > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > mlug mailing list > > mlug@listserv.mlug.ca > > https://listes.koumbit.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-listserv.mlug.ca > > > > > > <suse_logo_color-smaller.png>_______________________________ > > ________________ > > mlug mailing list > > mlug@listserv.mlug.ca > > https://listes.koumbit.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-listserv.mlug.ca > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > mlug mailing list > > mlug@listserv.mlug.ca > > https://listes.koumbit.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-listserv.mlug.ca > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > </pipermail/mlug-listserv.mlug.ca/attachments/20161003/8d947c6e/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2016 17:54:08 -0400 > From: Hendrik Boom <hend...@topoi.pooq.com> > To: mlug@listserv.mlug.ca > Subject: Re: [MLUG] Internet provider. > Message-ID: <20161003215408.ga28...@topoi.pooq.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > On Mon, Oct 03, 2016 at 05:22:56PM -0400, Denis-André Desjardins. wrote: > > Thank you all for your time and input. I decided to go with Bell because of > > their special. One thought though, if Bell supports Android, why wouldn't > > they support Linux? > > > > Because all the useful networing tools in GNU/Linux are GNU tools, > and not what's available in Android/Linux. Android/Linux uses its > own version of the Linux kernelm and by and large doesn't support GNU > userspace. > > I use Teksavvy because they don't hang up the phone when I tell them > I use Linux. They still use Bell phone lines, but not Bell's network > services. > > -- hendrik > > > On 3 October 2016 at 16:36, Nick Sklavenitis <sk...@teksavvy.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > Not for anything but the days of dial up and modems are done too be honest > > > getting on the internet 10 years ago with linux was not obvious i blame > > > win-modems. > > > > > > So fast fwd 10 years in theory all bell videotron etc… do is offer a > > > router/modem in your home. The fact that they would refuse you any os that > > > supports dhcp is ridiculous. My best advice is pick a reputable and > > > reasonable $ provider and enjoy. > > > > > > As many have mentioned if there are known issues it will rarely be on your > > > OS side now days. You will most likely never be talking to support and if > > > you do, your knowledge over level 1, might be light years ahead. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 2, 2016, at 3:46 PM, Leslie S Satenstein <lsatenst...@yahoo.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > And I use Tumbleweed and Bell too, with Gnome and Gnome tweaks! > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > * Leslie* > > > *Mr. Leslie Satenstein* > > > *Montréal Québec, Canada* > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > *From:* Sean Rickerd <srick...@suse.com> > > > *To:* mlug@listserv.mlug.ca > > > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 28, 2016 9:34 AM > > > *Subject:* Re: [MLUG] Internet provider. > > > > > > I use Bell and am very happy. > > > Sean Rickerd > > > Ingénieur Commercial/Sales Engineer > > > srick...@suse.com > > > 514.834.5778 > > > ------------------------------------------------ > > > <suse_logo_color-smaller.png> > > > On 28/09/16 09:28 AM, Denis-André Desjardins. wrote: > > > > > > I'll very soon have to find a new internet provider. Any suggestions? > > > > > > Denis-André Desjardins. > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > mlug mailing > > > listm...@listserv.mlug.cahttps://listes.koumbit.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-listserv.mlug.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > mlug mailing list > > > mlug@listserv.mlug.ca > > > https://listes.koumbit.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-listserv.mlug.ca > > > > > > > > > <suse_logo_color-smaller.png>_______________________________ > > > ________________ > > > mlug mailing list > > > mlug@listserv.mlug.ca > > > https://listes.koumbit.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-listserv.mlug.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > mlug mailing list > > > mlug@listserv.mlug.ca > > > https://listes.koumbit.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-listserv.mlug.ca > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > mlug mailing list > > mlug@listserv.mlug.ca > > https://listes.koumbit.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-listserv.mlug.ca > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > mlug mailing list > mlug@listserv.mlug.ca > https://listes.koumbit.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-listserv.mlug.ca > > > ------------------------------ > > End of mlug Digest, Vol 102, Issue 3 > ************************************
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