I'm also looking into literal translations. Phrases (and words) translated to the English meaning without literal word for word translation is confusing.
I prefer to "get into the French way of thinking". Au revoir=Goodbye? Nope, it's something like "At(till?) see again"... Most lessons don't seem to add the literal translations. Anyone any tips? Ciao, Max On Thursday, November 30, 2023 at 2:16:51 PM UTC+1 Peter Bienstman wrote: > Hi, > > The scripts are very tailored to my own personal use case, so it would > be a lot of work to make them accessible to anyone, without requiring > programming experience by the user, I'm afraid... > > BTW, small personal update: I recently started learning a new > language, and at this level, I do feel again some advantage of going > back to flashcards. The 'ideal method', as far as it even exists, also > very heavily depends on your language level. > > Cheers, > > Peter > > On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 2:12 PM MAX BAX <bak...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hoi Peter, > > > > This is probably exactly what I am looking for. > > I just started to use Mnemosyne for learning French and noticed that > just single words felt empty. (copy and paste lists of words) > > Lots of question marks would pop up in my head, where exactly can i use > this word??? > > > > So I thought about adding a few more words just to make it make more > sense. (lot of work) > > Plus I looked for lists of short phrases. > > Today I read more of the documentation and saw the 'sentence' option. > > That's also good. (even more than a lot of work?) > > > > But I would love to see and read more of what you described. > > Is it possible that we can see it or even use it? > > > > Greetings. > > > > On Saturday, July 1, 2023 at 12:11:16 PM UTC+2 Peter Bienstman wrote: > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> Not sure if this is interesting to anybody, but I thought I'd share how > my methods for language learning have evolved over the years. > >> > >> As you can image, I spent quite a lot of time doing flashcards, > amassing more than 30k of them over more than a decade. However, when I > started hitting 300 daily reps, I realised this was not sustainable > anymore. So, that's why two years ago, in Mnemosyne 2.8, I added a feature > to stop showing cards once they had a certain number of successive > successful reviews. > >> > >> That helped getting my workload under control, but after a while I > started to realise that if you're doing a lot of flashcards, you're getting > really good at... doing flashcards... I didn't really feel like the > flashcards improved my actual language abilities a lot. This was even when > using sentence cards, because I would often remember what a sentence meant > simply by reading the first few words. So, reading the rest of the sentence > had no more benefit. > >> > >> Rather then using fixed sentences, I then started experimenting with > having different sentences for a word each time. I initially thought of > doing this inside Mnemosyne, but the interface was not a good fit for this, > and grading became kind of meaningless anyway with this approach. So now I > have a bunch of scripts which pull words from a list, using a finite and > fixed sequence of intervals, and then collect sentences from the web > (mostly from Reverso Context, but I even experimented with using ChatGPT > for this). I originally generated an epub ebook from them, but now they are > collected in a webpage, so that I still have the benefit of using > browser-based dictionaries, sound files, shuffling word lists, etc. > >> > >> Anyway, over the last year or so, I felt that spending 15 minutes doing > this generated far greater dividends than doing flashcards for 15 minutes. > In hindsight, this should have been obvious: if you want to get good at > something, you should practice exactly that, and not something that's > tangentially related to this... > >> > >> Cheers, > >> > >> Peter > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "mnemosyne-proj-users" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to mnemosyne-proj-u...@googlegroups.com. > > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mnemosyne-proj-users/2217e212-cd3b-49de-9663-bbac09eaad22n%40googlegroups.com > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "mnemosyne-proj-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mnemosyne-proj-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mnemosyne-proj-users/5c95bb14-0754-4b72-928e-6d04f60933f8n%40googlegroups.com.
