I'm saying there is use cases for both.

 I would expect a site wide nearby feature to help me discover new
places nearby that I should visit (Wikivoyage even has a 'Go next'
section which does this)

When I'm in a place, on the page itself I would like to be able to see
map that helps me explore a city and find places to eat.


On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 12:51 PM, Max Semenik <[email protected]> wrote:
> I imagine that if someone's in London they're much more likely to be
> interested in finding a place to see or to eat at rather than to find a next
> city for their trip. Unless all their touristic goals consist of putting
> check marks near city names in a looong list:)
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 10:47 PM, Jon Robson <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> I'm not sure we'd want to bring in secondary points - I can imagine
>> the real use of Special:Nearby on Wikivoyage is for travellers who are
>> looking for places to go to next that are nearby e.g. by train/bus.
>> Somewhere like London would report Cambridge, Stonehenge or Oxford as
>> being nearby even though they are 60+ miles apart.. yet currently it
>> only shows 8 districts in London.
>>
>> I imagine something like the in article Nearby pages  that we
>> currently have in beta would be a better vehicle for secondary
>> points...
>>
>> Is there anyway we can guide a volunteer developer to do this and is
>> anyone interested? I'd love to see this moved along and give WV the
>> nearby it deserves.
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Max Semenik <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> > On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 6:37 PM, Jon Robson <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Actually my question is about further tweaking this... please reread my
>> >> email.
>> >
>> >
>> > D'oh!
>> >
>> > So the problem is not in radius but in what to display.
>> > https://wikimedia.mingle.thoughtworks.com/projects/mobile/cards/784
>> > discusses how geo search can be made more useful for WV. Our present
>> > Nearby
>> > implementation that searches for primary coordinaes only is not helpful
>> > because the wiki consists of large pages with a lot of POIs around. My
>> > current work on porting to Elasticsearch would allow a sane spatial
>> > search
>> > for secondary coordinates, once it's complete we can experiment with
>> > adding
>> > a Wikiversity-specific mode for Nearby. With a lot of points around,
>> > there
>> > should be no need to have a continent-sized radius.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jon Robson
>> * http://jonrobson.me.uk
>> * https://www.facebook.com/jonrobson
>> * @rakugojon
>
>



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