thanks, guys.

Dan/Yuvi: ping me when it’s done so I can look up the data.

On Jun 5, 2014, at 1:58 PM, Dan Garry <[email protected]> wrote:

> Great, thanks! There's still an issue here though, namely that we're tagging 
> account creations using the "mobile app edit" tag. We did this so we could 
> see the account creations coming in in real time. However, Dario informs me 
> that it's inconsistent with out strategy for logging account creations, and 
> that since the entries are created with no rev_id that it could end up 
> causing the Analytics team a lot of headaches.
> 
> I wanted to make sure that if we remove the tagging that we don't lose our 
> ability to collect this data. Dario assures me that this data is still 
> available in ServerSideAccountCreation so we can still generate statistics 
> for how many people are registering.
> 
> So we need a patch written to make sure we don't tag account creations with 
> our app edit tag. Yuvi said he'd work on this, and try to get it SWAT 
> deployed either tomorrow morning or on Monday morning.
> 
> Thanks,
> Dan
> 
> 
> On 5 June 2014 11:33, Brion Vibber <[email protected]> wrote:
> Change looks good and I've merged it, but if we need to push it in a hurry 
> we'll still need to arrange an LD or SWAT.
> 
> -- brion
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 6:13 AM, Liangent <[email protected]> wrote:
> I think https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/137563/ fixes this.
> 
> -Liangent
> 
> On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Dario Taraborelli
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > This afternoon Dan and I reviewed how tags from the android app are captured
> > in the change_tag and tag_summary tables.
> >
> > (1) We noticed that the “mobile app edit” tag is applied to recentchanges
> > events that are not edits, but new account registrations:
> >
> > SELECT * FROM enwiki.change_tag WHERE ct_rev_id IS NULL AND ct_tag = "mobile
> > app edit";
> >
> > ct_rc_id ct_log_id ct_rev_id ct_tag ct_params
> > 661123291 56899294 NULL mobile app edit NULL
> > 661123407 56899301 NULL mobile app edit NULL
> > 661124928 56899375 NULL mobile app edit NULL
> > 661127933 56899610 NULL mobile app edit NULL
> > 661128644 56899685 NULL mobile app edit NULL
> > 661131626 56899908 NULL mobile app edit NULL
> > 661133278 56899998 NULL mobile app edit NULL
> > 661134572 56900072 NULL mobile app edit NULL
> > 661140653 56900620 NULL mobile app edit NULL
> > 661155198 56901558 NULL mobile app edit NULL
> > 661155799 56901593 NULL mobile app edit NULL
> > 661156983 56901659 NULL mobile app edit NULL
> >
> > AFAIK this is unusual behavior for tags and will create artifacts in tagged
> > revisions unless people are aware that all these registration-related events
> > always need to be excluded (it’s also confusing because the name of the tag
> > explicitly refers to an edit). As suggested earlier [1], we should not track
> > the source of account registrations via MediaWiki tags but via the
> > ServerSideAccountCreation log.
> >
> > (2) edits made on apps should be stored with two separate tags: “mobile
> > edit” and “mobile app edit”. The tags are correctly stored in the change_tag
> > table with 2 records for each revisions, e.g.
> >
> > SELECT * FROM enwiki.change_tag WHERE ct_rc_id = 661110028;
> >
> > ct_rc_id ct_log_id ct_rev_id ct_tag ct_params
> > 661110028 NULL 611585155 mobile app edit NULL
> > 661110028 NULL 611585155 mobile edit NULL
> >
> > but when the tags are combined in the tag_summary table, the “mobile app
> > edit” tag is lost:
> >
> > SELECT * FROM enwiki.tag_summary WHERE ts_rc_id = 661110028;
> >
> > ts_rc_id ts_log_id ts_rev_id ts_tags
> > 661110028 NULL 611585155 mobile edit
> >
> > This should not be the case, the 2 tags should be concatenated in the
> > ts_tags field, see for example this desktop revision with 2 tags:
> >
> > SELECT * FROM enwiki.change_tag WHERE ct_rc_id = 578489188;
> >
> > ct_rc_id ct_log_id ct_rev_id ct_tag ct_params
> > 578489188 NULL 555564321 gettingstarted edit NULL
> > 578489188 NULL 555564321 visualeditor NULL
> >
> > SELECT * FROM enwiki.tag_summary WHERE ts_rc_id = 578489188;
> >
> > ts_rc_id ts_log_id ts_rev_id ts_tags
> > 578489188 NULL 555564321 gettingstarted edit,visualeditor
> >
> > I believe that neither (1) nor (2) is intended behavior for apps. Can you
> > guys confirm and if so, can we fix this?
> >
> > Dario
> >
> >
> > [1] http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mobile-l/2014-May/007150.html
> >
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