Creating a separate app to optimize sounds like a good idea. We will check
the market stats on Android versions, and I'll get the scoop from Facebook
on their learning.

I was somewhat surprised that most OEM's we've talked to are shipping
Android 4.x even on low-priced models targeted for developing markets. But
I'll clarify what's happening and circle back with Dan on the distribution
plan (preload vs. appstores). I'll also catch up with Kim.

I do love to see this attention given to our lower end handset users, thank
you!

Carolynne

On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 9:30 AM, Lila Tretikov <[email protected]> wrote:

> Dan,
>
> I think this is really important and thank you for highlighting this.
>
> Could you do rough sizing on what it would take to get something like this
> out? What if we did this with a pre-load?
>
> Carolynne -- I recommend you start reaching out to Kim as you re-formulate
> your W0 strategy.
>
> Lila
>
> On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 2:36 AM, Florian Schmidt <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> +1 for this idea. I still have an Android 2.3 device, but the Wikipedia
>> app (and others too) is very slow and becomes more and more unusable, while
>> it's agreat user experience on my Android 4.4 device.
>>
>> If dropping 2.3 support means a faster development of the main Wikipedia
>> app and the <2.3 users still have access to Wikipedia through a lite app
>> (which will be faster and more usable) i would say: do it, it has
>> advantages for both sides :)
>>
>> Florian
>>
>> Gesendet mit meinem HTC
>>
>> ----- Reply message -----
>> Von: "Dan Garry" <[email protected]>
>> An: "mobile-l" <[email protected]>, "Carolynne Schloeder" <
>> [email protected]>, "Toby Negrin" <[email protected]>, "Lila
>> Tretikov" <[email protected]>
>> Betreff: [WikimediaMobile] [Apps] Wikipedia Lite app?
>> Datum: Sa., Jan. 31, 2015 06:45
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> Those of you who were at the Mobile quarterly review heard me mention
>> Facebook Lite, an app that's designed especially for the developing world.
>>
>> Notably, their app has a lot of optimisations which make it good for
>> users in developing world:
>>
>>    - It's only 252kB, good for limited data plans.
>>    - It supports down to Android 2.2, good for older devices.
>>    - It's data-efficient, good for 2G connections and for people on
>>    limited data plans.
>>
>> From a development perspective, some advantages are:
>>
>>    - You no longer have to support older versions of Android in your
>>    main app.
>>    - You can tailor the performance of the lite app to the older devices
>>    so it's faster.
>>    - You can tailor the features of the lite app to the developing
>>    market.
>>
>> So obviously there are a lot of advantages for our users if we do this.
>> And, selfishly, I can't stress enough how much dropping Android 2.3 from
>> our current app would speed up development. As an example, almost all of
>> the edge cases with lead images occurred on 2.3 devices, and they required
>> quite a lot of investigation and hacking to fix them up. Obviously we've
>> not dropped 2.3 so far because it's a very strategically important part of
>> our user base, which I'm sure Carolynne can attest to!
>>
>> I'd say that we should put some serious thought into whether we'd prefer
>> to have a Wikipedia Lite app for the developing world, rather than our
>> current "one app to rule them all".
>>
>> Comments? Questions?
>>
>> Dan
>>
>> --
>> Dan Garry
>> Associate Product Manager, Mobile Apps
>> Wikimedia Foundation
>>
>
>


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