I'll be eager to see you guys write up your findings after the spikes are over.
thanks for moving that forward. --tomasz On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 3:05 AM, Gautam Chandna <[email protected]> wrote: > OEMs care about the size of their OS, as this is stored in a restricted > read-only area (unless a device is rooted). Once the device is running, > those limitations don't apply as an app has tons of space to update itself. > > Quite like the network installer concept for desktop applications, OEMs > prefer if the pre-install is a small package that in itself doesn't > necessarily do much other than download the real app. > > > > On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 12:48 AM, Yuri Astrakhan <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> Don't preload apps still get over-the-air updates, often the whole app >> re-download? >> >> On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 12:39 AM, Carolynne Schloeder >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, yes app size and yes optimization :-) >>> >>> App size does matter >>> OEM's are sensitive to the size of the app for preload. They were >>> satisfied with our last version that was under 3MB; we'll find out what they >>> will tolerate. And we will likely push appstore promotion as part of our >>> deep dive.[1] >>> >>> Couple of thoughts on optimization: >>> Yuri already worked to compress images on mobile web, only deployed on >>> zero partners so far. Rolling out the image compression could be an easy >>> start to reduce the page load. >>> >>> In a couple of weeks, we will get into Facebook/Ericsson's network >>> simulation lab in Menlo Park, where we can experience our UX on low end >>> devices and slow networks. >>> >>> Dan and Maryana, can you help me organize who should go to the lab? >>> >>> Thanks -- >>> >>> Carolynne >>> >>> [1] The Wikipedia Zero team is getting together with product, UX, comms >>> and GLEE to go deep in one country, to understand the context for Wikipedia >>> usage and how we can unlock growth in underserved market segments - beyond >>> just making data free. More info in our QR notes. >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Dan Garry <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> On 1 February 2015 at 14:48, Toby Negrin <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Dan -- can you please limit the scope to sizing the android app? I >>>>> think that's more relevant to reaching people in the developing world. >>>> >>>> >>>> I think that depends. In a world where we're focussing on preloads, the >>>> size of the app is pretty immaterial as the user isn't paying the cost for >>>> downloading it. In that world, the best optimisations to make are probably >>>> reducing network traffic and improving performance on slower devices, >>>> things >>>> where there's lot of room for improvement in our code base. Also, our >>>> Android app is also an order of magnitude smaller than Facebook's Android >>>> app, so that's less of an issue for us. Facebook evidently decided to >>>> TACKLE >>>> ALL THE THINGS with Facebook Lite. >>>> >>>>> Also, can you see what percent of our GS traffic uses 2.3? Google has >>>>> it at about 10% globally but we need to understand our target market >>>>> better. >>>>> You might also want to check in with your new contact at App Annie to see >>>>> if >>>>> they have useful GS data. >>>> >>>> >>>> Absolutely. >>>> >>>> Dan >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Dan Garry >>>> Associate Product Manager, Mobile Apps >>>> Wikimedia Foundation >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Carolynne Schloeder >>> Director Global Mobile Partnerships >>> Wikimedia Foundation >>> +14154077071 >>> skype: cschloeder >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mobile-l mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mobile-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l >> > > > > -- > Gautam Chandna | Director - Technical Partner Management | [email protected] > | +47-4567-1789 > > _______________________________________________ > Mobile-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l > _______________________________________________ Mobile-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l
