Hi At the outset, I am sorry to use a very touchy example to drive my point.
When we have lost our sight or in some cases loosing it, does it do us any good wishing we get our full vision back? We did not stop our life at this stage. We have taken our steps to move ahead. That is exactly the stage we are presently with regards to the Symbian phones. Agreed, the ease of use is not there in the touchscreen phones, however, we are not on a dead end. We have good number of success stories amongst us using touchscreen phones and we need to learn and share tips we pick on our way. This positive mind set should be our motivation to see through this changing times and we have the support of the list to see us through. We should express our mind and grieveance with makers of the touch screen phones to have key phones also as an option. The OS does not stop any manufacturer in making a key based phones. This is the approach to take to make any difference. Let us now close this thread and I also empathise with the members to endure this topic which keeps popping up time to time. Harish Kotian -----Original Message----- From: Mobile.accessindia [mailto:mobile.accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of ishita kapoor Sent: 08 October 2014 12:45 To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones and Tabs. Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone? we all are using android phones. and we love the platform. in my case i can do almost all necessary things with my phone. but you can't use touch screen as easily as qwerty phones. external keyboard is not solution of our problem. i can type as fast as my brother in qwerty phone but not in android. what can you do when a person asks you to misscall him or her when you are in moving auto or bus? it is the easiest thing to say that we can do everything. but only qwerty phone can give us complete eas. On 10/8/14, Gufran <gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com> wrote: > Ofcource android is not a bad system but its partners I.e the phone > makers > > are making touch oriented phones which are creating typing issues. > I think the masters of touch phones should show some ways to increase > typing speed.. Instead of critizing the new android users. As this is > our issues. > > Sent with AquaMail for Android > http://www.aqua-mail.com > > > On October 7, 2014 11:30:31 PM "Mahesh S. Panicker" > <maheshspanic...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I was a Symbian user for 5 years before shifting to Android more than >> a year ago. I bought my new Android phone when my Symbian Nokia phone >> with keypad was still very much functional. But the first thing I did >> after getting my Android was to lock away the old Nokia C5. I >> listened to podcasts, read tutorials, talked to people, participated >> in mailing lists, more than anything else did a lot of exploration of >> my own and figured out Android for myself. Have never used the old >> Symbian after I moved on to Android. Android is a developing system, >> and there still are glitches. Google themselves haven't made their >> apps fully accessible. The TalkBack developers are rather slow in >> addressing important user feedbacks. However, Android is pretty much >> functional. >> The functionality of an Android phone is miles better than that of a >> Symbian phone. The touch interface is new, and particularly in terms >> of typing, it is not the fastest system for many. But the beauty of >> Android is that for a majority of things, there are alternatives. So >> if you don't like lift to dial, there are alternative apps that helps >> by providing the tap to dial feature. Keyboard also has tap to type >> option available however there is no free accessible app available >> for the same at the moment as far as I know, and a number of the tap >> to type apps are not yet TalkBack accessible. We have to keep giving >> feedback, engage with the developers and try and make these products >> accessible. >> Some Indian companies like Intex have recently come out with Android >> phones with physical keypads. And there are companies like Tactus >> Technologies who are working on a tactile keypad that can be >> integrated with a touch interface. So in the future, we should have >> more options. >> Nokia killed off Symbian long back, the company itself is now with >> Microsoft who uses their Windows platform on the Nokia phones now. So >> Symbian is a thing of the past. and Touchscreen interface is the name >> of the game today as far as smartphones are concerned. It certainly >> is possible to use an Android touchscreen device as your primary device. >> But a touchscreen interface wouldn't work like one with a physical >> keypad, but that doesn't mean it is not functional. You can >> experiment with different types of keypads, try a Bluetooth keyboard >> that has got enhanced TalkBack support in the recent update, try voice >> input....... >> And in the meanwhile, hopefully TalkBack developers will look at some >> of the issues and further enhance Android accessibility. >> >> On 10/7/14, Mohib Anwar Rafel <mohibra...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > One more observation, in Symbian phones you could do exactly in the >> > same way as a non talks user could do. The method of using the >> > phone was quite similar whether with or with out talks. But here on >> > touchscreen devices the methods of using phone are different from >> > non-screen reader users. to give an example, in android for >> > copying/paste the text we have to take local context menue, to read >> > line by line or para by para we have to change in global context >> > menue. More over when talkback is on, sighted users can not use our >> > phone easily. >> > >> > On 10/7/14, Mohib Anwar Rafel <mohibra...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> So far as I know, on android with the help of external physical >> >> keypad you can't know the currently focused itom. Rather u can >> >> take left and right arrow to determine which was last focused >> >> itom. But again keypad can not unlock your phone if its screen got >> >> locked. Regarding RIVO keyboard, its not that much helpful as its >> >> on iOS platform. Some users says it not very much helpful. the >> >> fact is that you can not accomplish many tasks directly from >> >> android RIVO in present senareo. Even the manufacturer of this >> >> keyboard are not working on it to develop it anymore, because >> >> their argument is that android provides less support to external >> >> physical keyboards. May things are changed with the release of Android L >> >> which is about to be launched in a month or so. >> >> And yes, these are the things, a user isn't missing? >> >> >> >> On 10/7/14, Sheik Mohammedali <shahid.se...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> another concern: >> >>> even though if you use external keypad, how do you make screen >> >>> reader to read the current windows/focused item/line on text? and >> >>> without swiping notification shade and statuses cannot be read. >> >>> how do you access those on >> >>> >> >>> external keypads such as rivo keyboard? >> >>> >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>> From: "Himanshu Sahu" <sahu.himanshu2...@gmail.com> >> >>> To: "Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of >> >>> mobile phonesand Tabs." <mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >> >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 2:00 PM >> >>> Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone? >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>>I am surprised to see that the moderator is yet to intervene in >> >>>>this discussion and specially to those comments persecuting >> >>>>users still missing their keypad based phones... >> >>>> Discussing and comparing old versus new technologies doesn't >> >>>>mean inviting wrath of some frenzy folks who instead of answeing >> >>>>to valid questions prefer to jump on hasty conclusion and even >> >>>>act as analyst and super moderator tagging it as "timepass" and >> >>>>suggesting "close of thread". >> >>>> >> >>>> Its better to offer sollutions of problems rather hiding behind >> >>>> cover of being "super techy"! >> >>>> >> >>>> Some of my questions: >> >>>> 1. how to send one sms to around 150 people from contact list >> >>>> which contains 700 contacts, specially when one doesn't remember >> >>>> all names and hence compelled to browse all contacts? >> >>>> 2. how to make typing easier without incurring additional cost, >> >>>> time and effort? >> >>>> 3. how to ascertain that which menu is located at which place in >> >>>> various windows? Remember that there are people who don't have >> >>>> much free time to leave important works and give their whole day >> >>>> on exploring and remembering that which menu is located at which place. >> >>>> 4. how to label multiple of unlabelled buttons in androit >> >>>> without taking sighted help? >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> On 10/5/14, Salim qureshi <salim2...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>>> hi, this topic is nothing but a fully timepass. Some folks will >> >>>>> never come out from ded simbian worldb. Let them stay there >> >>>>> only. I'm really enjoying my android world. And yes i am not >> >>>>> missing any of my simbian phones any more. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> On 10/5/14, Sagar <sagar.verma5...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>>>> What is this? What do you mean touchscreen is not for us? Are >> >>>>>> you out of your mind? >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>> On 5 Oct 2014, at 14:43, Mohib Anwar Rafel >> >>>>>>> <mohibra...@gmail.com> >> >>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Let's see whether any company comes with better jugad. But >> >>>>>>> obviously touchscreen are not for blind folks. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> On 10/5/14, P L VARMA <plvni...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>>>>>> i am sure indian jugad will ultimately provide a solution!!! >> >>>>>>>> smiles!!! >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>>>>>>> From: "Mohib Anwar Rafel" <mohibra...@gmail.com> >> >>>>>>>> To: "Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility >> >>>>>>>> of mobile phonesand Tabs." >> >>>>>>>> <mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >> >>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2014 12:25 AM >> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone? >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> true. if physical keyboard is attached to android phone, it >> >>>>>>>>> will be most accessible phone. >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> On 10/4/14, Vikas Kapoor <dl.vi...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>> I suppose it is not really the platform we should be >> >>>>>>>>>> struggling for, rather >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> it is keypad versus touch interface, so symbian is not >> >>>>>>>>>> really the question but the touch interface. Since Symbian >> >>>>>>>>>> is primarily associated with the keypad interface and >> >>>>>>>>>> Android with touch interface, we've started labeling the >> >>>>>>>>>> OS instead of the structure of a phone in terms of >> >>>>>>>>>> accessibility and comfortability... >> >>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>>>>>>>>> From: "Shyam M. Sayanekar" <sayane...@gmail.com> >> >>>>>>>>>> To: "Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing >> >>>>>>>>>> accessibility of mobilephonesand Tabs. " >> >>>>>>>>>> <mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >> >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 8:51 PM >> >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian >> >>>>>>>>>> phone? >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Yes very much. This is so because; the ease and total >> >>>>>>>>>> control which you could get in the symbian phone is not >> >>>>>>>>>> possible in the Android phone. >> >>>>>>>>>> The >> >>>>>>>>>> option key, the menu key and the arrow keys give you full >> >>>>>>>>>> control over the symbian phone. The typing eas in the >> >>>>>>>>>> Symbian phone is wonderful. >> >>>>>>>>>> In >> >>>>>>>>>> the >> >>>>>>>>>> symbian phone the full phone could be operated with one >> >>>>>>>>>> hand with your single thumb, whereas, in Android you >> >>>>>>>>>> require using both hands and more fingers. Some say that >> >>>>>>>>>> they do everything just with one hand, but that is an >> >>>>>>>>>> exception and not a rule. The main problem with the >> >>>>>>>>>> android phones is that the location of different buttons >> >>>>>>>>>> such as delete button and more options button in different >> >>>>>>>>>> operations is not fixed, and you take a lot of time to >> >>>>>>>>>> locate them. Further more, many of the buttons are not labled. >> >>>>>>>>>> The >> >>>>>>>>>> number >> >>>>>>>>>> of >> >>>>>>>>>> screens also add to our problems, All these problems are >> >>>>>>>>>> not there in the Symbian. >> >>>>>>>>>> Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar >> >>>>>>>>>> Telephone: 0251-2438457 >> >>>>>>>>>> Mobile: +91 9920410788 >> >>>>>>>>>> Skype ID- sayanekar >> >>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>>>>>>>>> From: "Mohib Anwar Rafel" <mohibra...@gmail.com> >> >>>>>>>>>> To: "mobile.accessindia" >> >>>>>>>>>> <mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >> >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 12:51 PM >> >>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Mobile.AI] Hey folks do u miss your symbian phone? >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Just I was wondering how many of you are missing their >> >>>>>>>>>>> old nokia Symbian phones after shifting to touchscreen >> >>>>>>>>>>> world? 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