Does anyone have a good resource (url, preso, book, etc.) about explaining the 
basics of MVC, in particular to how it's applied when using MG? If there's 
something right in front of my nose I apologize in advance.

Keep up the good work, your efforts are NOT going unnoticed....

Rich


On Jul 29, 2010, at 6:47 PM, Paul Milleson wrote:

> I apologize to the group for complaining and being critical of something 
> that's wonderful and free !  I'll have to admit that I got completely spoiled 
> by the level of detail and the quality of writing in the QuickStart. 
> 
> The pattern and flow of the writing there is beyond clever and truly is a joy 
> to follow along with.  I imagine that some of its cleverness might be lost on 
> someone to which English is a second language, but for me, it was absolutely 
> delightful ! Throwing in phrases like: "What's with that?", or making one 
> think, with word play like: "If only we could tell Model-Glue to..." - made 
> the experience so fun that I didn't even realize that I had just learned most 
> of the important details about a truly incredible framework.  
> 
> Lately, I've had difficulties with other tutorials elsewhere as well as some 
> code examples that just plain didn't work due to small but highly significant 
> mistakes or omissions. I lost a lot of time making these things work and I 
> guess I took my frustrations out here.
> 
> Sorry... 
> 
> On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Matt Quackenbush <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> Wow.  Generally speaking I am utterly dismissive of such obnoxiously 
> combative people, but for some very strange reason I feel inclined to offer 
> my assistance.
> 
> A) If you are seeking FREE help from people who give FREELY of their time and 
> their knowledge to write frameworks, tutorials, etc., at least have the 
> decency to make an attempt at being a decent human being.
> 
> B) I do not come from a ModelGlue background.  Hell, I don't even come from a 
> programming background.  The tutorial was perfectly clear to me.
> 
> C) Based upon some of your questions, I think the issue at hand (aside from 
> your complete lack of respect for others) is that you don't have a grasp on 
> MVC.
> 
> D) Does it really matter how MG does something behind the scenes, as long as 
> it actually does it?  In my opinion, the answer is "no, it does not".  That 
> is called encapsulation, and is a core principle to MVC.
> 
> E) "The form" does *not* get data into the service layer.  The programmer 
> does.
> 
> F) The service layer gets data into the database in whatever manner the 
> programmer writes the service to do so.
> 
> G) There is no damn G.
> 
> /assistance
> 
> 
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