just out of curiosity, what's your proposal on how to stop violence?
there have always been wars and there will always be wars and as long as
some form of government is better than anarchy, there will always be
political agendas that cause death. sorry, but it's true.
On Tue, 26 Oct 1999, Mark Robbins wrote:
> Its our president, our government, that caused, and continues to exascerbate
> these attrocaties.
> It isn't enough to say, "I didn't vote for him," or "I was to young to vote
> for him" because that trivializes the thousands of Iraquis who gave up their
> lives for a lie. People don't seem to be outraged anymore..its like the
> government has done so many terrible things that when they do something else
> its lie.."well thats government". How can someone possibly say that? I just
> dont understand..to say that "it was just government" when the CIA was
> funneling crack into ghettos to try to enslave an entire generation of black
> people, how can the entire country not be outraged by that? How is that
> something that huge doesn't even make the back pages of the New York Times?
> How can we stand by while our government drops more munitions in six months
> than was spent in the entire Vietnam war, to muscle a dictator(that we
> established) to the same conditions he agreed to before the bombing started?
> And then, stand by while the Indonesian "militias" killing half of a
> cultures population in 25 years? Not even the Jews were exterminated with
> such depravity for human life, and yet we do nothing, and we say nothing.
> When a movie comes that actuall adresses even a sliver of that, and is able
> to be viewed by huge numbers of people..that has to be one of the most
> substantial things I've heard about in a long time. Even if it is just a
> movie, Its making people question the things they read..even if it came from
> the new york times, or the wasington post. We have to show them that we
> aren't cattle anymore, that if you lie cheat and steal it will not be
> tolerated. This movie isn't the panacea..and its not exactly creating an
> outcry of support for the Iraqui position, but even a small change in such
> an ingrined infastructre is monumental.
> Not only was George Bush my President, he was a fellow human being, and for
> me that is more than sufficent to command my disgust.
>
> Mark
>
> http://dugmartsch.tripod.com
> And your mom would stick a fork right into daddy's shoulder, and dad
> would throw the garbage all across the floor, as we would lay and learn
> what each other's bodies were for. And your mom would drink until she
> was no longer speaking, and dad would dream of all the different ways to
> die, each one a little more than he could dare to try.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Philip Smoker
> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 1999 10:27 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [MMouse]: I got a magnet in my head
>
>
> Mark said:
> I'll hold my tounge..but when twenty thousand people
> diebecause of a
> promise that someone who bears any connection to
> me(howeverpassively)
> reniged on...I consider that substantial.
>
>
> OK, what am I missing here? Is this in reference to
> Three Kings, and more specifically the Gulf War?
> What passive connection do you have with George Bush
> and the United States Armed Forces? The fact that you
> live in the same country as them?
>
> Please, extol the virtues of Three Kings for the
> group.
>
> thanks for picking it up,
> *phiL*
>
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