Well..i go for this point for point..


<<So if we spent a bazillion dollars>> Actually..we spent very little money
on Bosnia.  The only thing we supplied were the bombs, everything else was
paid for by NATO or other European countries..as its been for the past five
decades or so...were like the hessians..if you pay for the battle well fight
it..and take the credit for the vicotry..since we never lose.

<<sending troops over to bosnia to try to
stop the inherent violence that has gone on there for thousands of years,
will it change anything?  i believe it IS human nature not to be violent,
but to be ignorant.  as long as a person believes he/she is better than
someone else and passes that on to their children, their children's
children, etc, there will always be violence.  no, it is not in our
nature, necessarily, to be violent, but our ignorance perpetuates it.>>
This sentiment is shared perhaps by every other person in the world..so..if
were all ignorant..and we know that were all ignorant..doesnt that mean that
were not ignorant anymore?  Thats an excuse..and a flimsy one at that.

<<as far as slave wages in other countries...i question the validity of the
argument.  aren't the people working for foreign companies making more
than those people working for domestic companies?  when your option is
$1.50 making soccer balls, or panhandling on the street, i think the
choice is clear.  and the children who work there, they work because they
have to.  you can't compare the economy and lifestyle of US citizens to
that of the impoverished in less-developed countries.  sure, it seems like
a rip-off to us, but in the context of their economy, it isn't so bad.>>

This is what corporations would like you to believe..they give people
jobs..if it weren't for them they would be forced to beg..and on and on and
on..
The fact is that its a total lie, profit margins wouldn't be hurt that badly
if they paid a decent(no ones looking for 20 bucks an hour..but how about a
minimum HOURLY wage..no more paying by the week..or the soccerball)wage.
What would happen, is that instead of the CEO making 4000 times what the
average worker in his company makes(no that is not a point for exageration
that IS a real figure) they'd only make 400-500 times what the average
worker makes(the average worker being paid about 12.50 an hour) Boo hoo for
the CEO's of the world..i think they will survive.
Yes..children do have to work in order to support their family "over there".
Doesn't that bother you?  Considering how easy such a situation would be to
change(that is..in our next IMF loan just tell them that they have to
implement a minimum wage standard..or else they dont get the money..) why is
nothing being done?  Because people don't realize how easy it would be to
change...WE ARE THE MAJORITY..the big majority(the people who genuinely care
about humanity that is..) why do we let a couple of punks push us around?
Once again..mark no understand..


<<and i went to see al gore speak last night.  i admit i was forced into it
and after standing around waiting for him to show up for an hour, i put
the five minute-rule into effect. but he wasn't bad. the usual catch
phrases, repetiton, and story-telling.  a typical speech to fire up
a crowd, but he was interesting.  too bad we had to stand around for an
hour longer waiting for him.>>

Actually..i kind of liked Al Gore's energy(no joke) when i saw him on
C-Span..i almost even felt a little inspired..

<<get rid of money and move to what?  barter?  i'll give you my pencil for
a piece of gum.  it may work in junior high, but i don't see it happening
any time soon.>>

Actually..you probably will see it..within the next twenty years is my
guess..as money becomes totally meaningless..science fiction realities
a'commin and what not..

<<well, lack of order and safety, i guess.>>

What makes you feel safe now?  The knowledge that if your purse is
stolen..you can go to the police for help..or that if your walking the
streets alone some crack addict is going to be so scared of going to prison
that he wouldn't kill you for the change in your car..yeah..you go with
that.  Your not safe..youve just been tricked into thinking you are.  Ill
end with some pretty scarry logic..some of you probably already know.  The
chances of the police actually arresting a criminal(country wide average) is
20%..only one out of five cases are ever solved..then looking at the number
convicted..1 in five drops to 1 in ten..and the number that actually serve a
prision sentance..about one in twenty..
The only way saftey can ever be assured is if we simply erradicate the
causes..money, power, greed, arivace.  Stop giving people easy ways to
measure worth..and youll do a lot more to stopping crime than hiring a
couple hundred thousand police officers..

natalie
                sweetness follows.

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