> Stas Bekman wrote:
> > 
> > Hi, folks
> > 
> > You wouldn't beleive but I receive a great deal of mod_perl job offers.
> > Here is a partial quote of the most generic content of the offer:
> > 
> >   At any rate, we're finding it very hard to find mod_perl people and I
> >   thought maybe you could refer me to someone you know. I can tell you
> >   more about the client and the positions if you're interested.
> > 
> > Which makes me thinking that we are too few and the demand is growing
> > (which is good for us :), but from the other side it's bad for mod_perl,
> > as when a project staff understands the power of mod_perl and want to use
> > it but have no experience with mod_perl and can hire none of mod_perl
> > programmers, there is no other choice left as to use some other probably
> > worse technology because they could dig up the required man power that has
> > the required knowledge in the other field.
> 
> Stas, ever since you made that remark at the O'Reilly Conference,
> wishing that there was no such thing as money, I have known that you and
> I are of the same opinion regarding economics.  Sadly, we seem to be
> stuck in this money-driven system for at least a little while more.

Yes, untill we go IPO :) which seems to be a good way to escape from the 
monetary jail... Do anyone is going IPO any time soon? I want to join you
:) We should add a checkbox to the jobs.html page saying: 
IPO o before o after

> There can be no such thing as a shortage of mod_perl programmers.  When
> someone says that they can't find mod_perl people, what they really mean
> is that they can't find mod_perl people for the price they are willing
> to pay.  We are expensive, you see.  Frequently the prospective employer
> of a mod_perl person will decide that they simply cannot afford to go
> the mod_perl route.  They instead use a different solution whose cost is
> lower.  The second system isn't neccessarily inferior, it is simply the
> best system the client could afford.
> 
> In light of the above, there is nothing you can do to relieve a shortage
> that doesn't exist.  What you can do is lower the price of mod_perl
> skills by making them more widespread.  This will allow more people to
> use mod_perl, and I think all of the people on this list would approve
> of that.  I personally approve of anything which helps the worldwide
> flow of information.
> 
> Now unfortunately a lot of people don't share our views on money.  They
> want to maximize the monetary value of their mod_perl knowledge, which
> is all well and good as far as I care.  The problem for these folks is
> that the more widespread basic mod_perl skills become, the harder it
> will be to charge extortionary prices for performing the simplest
> mod_perl tricks.  In effect the price that mod_perl programmers can
> demand will become stratified: those with the most skills will still be
> very highly valued, but those with modest skills will see their wages
> decline.

Wow, I didn't think about this. A very interesting logic you are
presenting here... I loved it!

I want to be one of the rare species and to get paid a
lot :) 

> > Now the question is: if this is truth and you feel the same way, how do we
> > make the world know that there is a great demand for mod_perl programmers
> > and that people should learn mod_perl and not the stright-forward choice
> > like VB, ASP or other technology that drives the web?
> 
> Most people are lazy.  Since it is easier to get started with
> VB/ASP/Crapomatic-9000, most people are going to start there.  The
> people with real initiative and drive will always find their way over to
> mod_perl or other advanced solutions.  The only way to make more people
> use mod_perl is to make mod_perl easier for the lazy people.  I think
> dougm's book and your upcoming book will do a lot to make mod_perl more
> accessible.

Yup, that's what we should try to do... to lower the entry level. 

BTW, I'm not writing the book alone anymore, I'm delighted to coauthor the
book with Eric Cholet! Yippee!!!

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