[This went off topic, so this is my last contribution;
 at least until some mod_perl stuff get's added back...  :]

Matt Sargent wrote -

Doh! Just realised that producing a secret from something that's totally
*not* a secret is really dumb :)

Next option? :)

> InSecurity.Org -

> # ifconfig -a
> lo0: flags=849<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 8232
> inet 127.0.0.1 netmask ff000000
> hme0: flags=863<UP,BROADCAST,NOTRAILERS,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
> inet 207.203.95.12 netmask ffffff00 broadcast 207.203.95.255
> ether 8:0:20:a7:fc:f5

> www.fccj.org -

> [Wed 11:55am] 12 [~]:bill@astro:% ifconfig  -a
> lo0: flags=849<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 8232
> inet 127.0.0.1 netmask ff000000
> hme1: flags=863<UP,BROADCAST,NOTRAILERS,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
> inet 207.203.47.7 netmask ffffff00 broadcast 207.203.47.255
> hme1:1: flags=863<UP,BROADCAST,NOTRAILERS,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
> inet 207.203.47.170 netmask ffffff00 broadcast 207.203.47.255
> hme1:2: flags=863<UP,BROADCAST,NOTRAILERS,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
> inet 207.203.47.171 netmask ffffff00 broadcast 207.203.47.255
> hme1:3: flags=863<UP,BROADCAST,NOTRAILERS,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
> inet 207.203.47.172 netmask ffffff00 broadcast 207.203.47.255
> hme1:4: flags=863<UP,BROADCAST,NOTRAILERS,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
> inet 207.203.47.173 netmask ffffff00 broadcast 207.203.47.255
> hme1:5: flags=863<UP,BROADCAST,NOTRAILERS,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
> inet 207.203.47.174 netmask ffffff00 broadcast 207.203.47.255
> hme1:6: flags=863<UP,BROADCAST,NOTRAILERS,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
> inet 207.203.47.175 netmask ffffff00 broadcast 207.203.47.255

> fccjmail.fccj.org -

> # ifconfig -a 
> lo0: flags=849<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 8232
> inet 127.0.0.1 netmask ff000000
> hme0: flags=863<UP,BROADCAST,NOTRAILERS,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
> inet 207.203.47.6 netmask ffffff00 broadcast 207.203.47.255
> ether 8:0:20:80:39:65


Why does it need to start out as a secret?  Can't it start out as
a machine signature?  That is how the Sun License Manager begins.

HTH,  -Sneex-  :]
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