Right on, brutha!
But seriously, Open Source, no matter how incidentally
noble it is, represents a "better way" to develop
high-quality software for many systems development
goals.
Bottom line: To focus on the nobility of it is to have
a schitzophrenia about the benifits of using open
source.
-Nick
--- Mark Bainter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Nedim Cholich [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> > Tom, don't make it religious. Open Source is great
> paradigm, but some things
> > in life are not open source. Giving back to the
> community is noble, but we
> > have to make a living, and we can't all be Perl
> instructors, or write books
>
> I think that was a little unnecessary don't you?
> Giving back to the
> community is not about being 'noble'. Let's take a
> really obvious
> example. If people like Larry and Tom and Randal
> took your attitude you'd
> be paying for this tool. And it wouldn't be nearly
> as good and we
> probably wouldn't even have mod_perl, embperl or any
> of the other variations.
> And there would be no CGI.pm, heck there would be no
> CPAN. You
> don't seem to have any problem taking advantage of
> what an open
> development model offers you, why is it so difficult
> for people to
> give back?
>
> > Y'all should embrace using these technologies in a
> corporate world, as a
> > kind of recognition this crowd needs badly.
>
> Balogna. "this crowd" doesn't need media
> recognition. In fact, the
> only thing media recognition can do for (to) this
> crowd is to bring
> more people with this kind of attitude. That's not
> what we need.
>
> > > >need to be open source. As a meter of fact,
> most of the work people on
> > this
> > > >list are doing is commercial and not open
> source. That's how we make a
> > > >living!
>
> I'm not sure that's a statement you can make.
> First, I doubt you know what
> most of the work people on the list is. Second, you
> seem to have this wierd
> opinion that commercial and open source are
> antithetical. This is not the
> case. I have done a lot of open source work for
> commercial companies. I
> used to work for an ISP where I released all my work
> in the open. Stuff
> we did for web clients (email scripts, image manip
> scripts, etc) and
> sysadmin utilities. I'm now working for a company
> where we are looking
> at releasing the code for our mod_perl site open.
>
> I will never understand this attitude towards an
> open development model.
> Especially from people benefiting from it's
> advantages.
>
> Note:
> I don't know Nedim. I have only been on this
> particular list a short
> while. This is in no way meant to be a flame.
> It's more of a...
> general rant.. than anything else.
>
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# Nick Bauman
# Technical Programmer
# Founding Child of Simplexity Systems,
# A Non-Profit IT Consortium (Sempher Ubi Sububi)
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