This may or may not work, as I don't even think I'm on the modperl list
%^) Sorry to the mod_perl folk who've already been down this path... this
was originaly a "me too!" email.

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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 16:14:39 -0800
From: "Parand T. Darugar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "<*>" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: VelociGen for Perl, Competetive Analysis?

Dear Star,

  For some reason my responses to the modperl list are
bouncing. If you could forward this for me I'd appreciate it.

> Have a look @ Vivek Khera's own words:
> 
> http://www.bitmechanic.com/mail-archives/modperl/Jul1999/0701.html
>
> His blessing?

  That response was to an early version of the document. We worked 
with Vivek to get the document into a shape he liked. In private 
email he gave his blessing, which I believe I relayed to the modperl
mailing list. Here is a snippet:

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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 14:26:17 -0400 (EDT)
From: Vivek Khera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Parand Tony Darugar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

PTD> Dear Vivek,
PTD>   Could you take a look at that page again
PTD> (http://www.binevolve.com/velocigen/competition.vet) and
PTD> let me know what you think?

Looks good to me.  Thanks for responding to the discussion!
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> Here's a snip from an email that I just receved from one of your
> co-workers, Alex Shah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> in response to this same
> email:

  Alex's response was to the comparison of VelociGen+iPlanet to
mod_perl+Apache. iPlanet wanted a particular take on the situation,
which is what they got. We're not a large company, and we have to make
certain alliances.

> Even if you did fragment the perl camp, that would just lend credance to
> your product, ya know?  Again it is the *marketing* and the mud slinging
> aginst mod_perl that I don't dig and the only reason I wrote the email in
> the first place.  No Holy Wars, just the facts...

  Here's how it is: people ask us about the differences between
VelociGen and mod_perl. We have to put a response on the website.
There are some architectural differences. We try to highlight these,
and show where VelociGen is better. 

  If you take a look at the stuff that comes us at from some mod_perl
camps, there's quite a bit more mud than we've ever thrown. There's
the whole "VelociGen is based on mod_perl" thread.  There's the
benchmark that compares VelociGen with mod_perl and a couple of
other solutions, and it shows us near the bottom in a very simple
test. Now, you can run the tests yourself and see that VelociGen
comes up near the top; heck, when we test, our solution is the 
fastest ;-)

  Anyway, both mod_perl and VelociGen work well. If we take the
competitive analysis off the site, we get flamed for not doing
the comparison. If we put it on the site, we upset some people.
We've got Vivek's approval, which is about as much as we can do,
I think.

Best,

Parand Tony Darugar                     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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