At 07:36 AM 3/7/00 -0800, you wrote:
>Karl Denninger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Well, confidentiality implies integrity, in that a tampered data stream
> > won't decode.  Public key crypto with a known certification on the public
> > key provides non-repudiation (assuming the private key has not been
> > compromised)

>This is absolutely not true.
>
>Consider a data stream enciphered with RC4. It's perfectly
>easy to undetectably flip any plaintext bit by
>flipping the corresponding ciphertext bit. If you know the
>plaintext, you can modify it predictably.

Perhaps... but isn't this impractical?  The key phrase here is "If you know the
plaintext...". How would one know if a random, encrypted stream is a 
recipe, a love letter, or a secret message to religious extremists?  It all 
just looks like encrypted packets.

Jon
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