Maybe..  but the Netscape I'm testing works perfectly with Amazon, ebay,
B&N, etc etc etc. I've tried with Win2k servers, Solaris, Stronghold, all
work fine.

Anyone have a mod_ssl server I can try against? mod_ssl version number
different and same as mine for comparison would be excellent.

Slackware 7.0
Apache 1.2.13
mod_ssl-2.6.6-1.3.12
openssl-0.9.6

DAve

on 5/31/01 11:42 AM, McCaffity, Ray at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> We several Mac's all running OS 9.1 using MSIE 5,
> Web server is Apache1.3.20+mod_ssl+openSSL0.9.6a
> We don't have any problems.  Maybe it's a Netscape thing?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DAve Goodrich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 12:56 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Netscape + ModSSL=Dead slow.
> 
> 
> Current update on this problem;
> 
> I've been sniffing the TCP stream while logging in with Netscape/PC and
> Netscape/Mac. Interestingly the Mac version appears to load three objects
> (images) and then wait for 18 seconds. Then load another three objects and
> again wait 18 seconds. Etc etc etc.....
> 
> Very strange, the PC Netscape loads the entire page in under a second.
> 
> I have also tried using Netscape/Mac with differing security levels. Using
> the security tool in Netscape I have tried turning off SSLv2 or SSLv3 at the
> client, including changing the requested ciphers. Any combination of the
> below, on or off, makes no difference, Netscape/Mac still crawls.
> 
> RC4 encryption with a 128-bit key and an MD5 MAC
> FIPS 140-1 compliant triple DES encryption and SHA-1 MAC
> Triple DES encryption with a 168-bit key and a SHA-1 MAC
> FIPS 140-1 compliant DES encryption and SHA-1 MAC
> DES encryption with a 56-bit key and a SHA-1 MAC
> RC4 encryption with a 56-bit key and a SHA-1 MAC
> DES encryption in CBC mode with a 56-bit key and a SHA-1 MAC
> RC4 encryption with a 40-bit key and an MD5 MAC
> RC2 encryption with a 40-bit key and an MD5 MAC
> No encryption with an MD5 MAC
> 
> Any clues yet? Is there anything I can do, record, reconfig, chant, to try
> and find an answer for this?
> 
> <knock><knock><knock>  Hello?
> 
> on 5/29/01 1:22 PM, DAve Goodrich at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>> More information on this. I have dropped down to SSLv2 with no change.
>> Netscape is still slow. Testing on a local LAN (100mb duplex, only my
>> client), server config unchanged.
>> 
>> Netscape 4.75 on a Mac G4 running MacOS 9.1. A test page loads in slightly
>> more than three minutes, the same page when viewed on a PC running Win2K
> and
>> Netscape 4.75 loads in under 1/2 second.
>> 
>> I have ssl_engine_log files available run in <SSLLogLevel trace> mode if
>> someone would look at them. It appears, "appears", that the Mac Netscape
> is
>> doing many things twice.
>> 
>> DAve
>> 
>> TS continues.......
>> 
>> on 5/25/01 4:51 PM, DAve Goodrich at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> 
>>> I'll throw my hat in on this one. I also have looked high and low for an
>>> answer without luck. The logs tell me nothing about what might be going
>>> wrong. I did read and use the suggestions from the FAQ and Ref manual
> before
>>> searching the list.
>>> 
>>> Slackware 7.0
>>> Apache 1.2.13
>>> mod_ssl-2.6.6-1.3.12
>>> openssl-0.9.6
>>> 
>>> Netscape 4.7.X on a Mac literally crawls. MSIE, Mozilla, Opera have no
>>> problems. Netscape on a PC seems OK as does Netscape on Unix.
>>> 
>>> DAve.

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